this doesnt need to sink into a huge political discussion at this point fellas


a traffic camera (at least) has captured it. they havent shown it on TV, but since they blocked off an area around the bus with large white sheets, they have been using the camera to show the scene very briefly. apparently the bus was stopped while the driver asked for directions.

as for a suicide bomber, who knows, our mobile phones were disconnected during the day as it was feared that they could be used as a detonating device...

Londoner,

You're right. Our thoughts and prayers belong with you and your neighbors who died or are suffering today. Questions are for tomorrow.

The cameras don't have anything to show now but a mess. I'm not a big fan of the cameras, but if they're there, I hope the tapes reveal something useful.

Prayers, and Blessings to all that have lost their loved ones to this tradgedy.

I'm glad you are at least safe, Londoner. My sincere sympathies to your fellow Brits.

Whodunit? Why, Rudy Giuliani of course!

He was NYC Mayor during 9/11, and now he just happened to be a block away from a bombing in London. It's obvious to me -

RUDY IS THE TERRORIST!!! Go after him, Dubya!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahaahaahahaaaaaaa

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They probably do have some camera footage of the event, but quite honestly, that is not the public's concern over there as that is part of the ongoing investigation by Scotland Yard (the Metropolitan Police). That's one of the major problems with how we react in America, we want to see the footage and keep our people uptight and scared. Doing so only puts us in a position to fear the terrorists, which is exactly what they (the terrorist) want. London will bounce back from this event much faster than NYC, at least that is my prediction.

Just as one of the other people on this blog said, Londoner's are a strong group of people. As for involving political ideologies in this discussion, it is uncalled for and I agree with "Londoner." Additionally, my belief is that it proves only that you cannot think past your own selfish thoughts and makes you look like a true idiot in the end. The recouperation for London will not involve political overtones, it will involve a strong group of people coming together, no matter what their political beliefs may be, to reunite as a country and prove to the terrorists that they cannot be brought down. No one on here, unless you were directly involved with 9/11, the OKC bombing or another terrorist attack, can say how we/they should react. After all, if you were the expert in international emergency response, wouldn't you be working for Homeland Security or the Dept. of Defense?

In the end, I think that Philly would be much better represented by a group of people that don't get politics involved in the discussion, but instead focus on how they can help. You can help by continuing to visit London and taking part in their great city. Having been a student in that city before, it is truly a wonderful city and I would feel 100 percent safe leaving and going there today. So, keep on talking about the newsworthiness of the horrific event, but leave politics out of it...the people of London likely don't care about the politics, and neither do most of the sympathetic people of Philly.

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Tim

Tim there are two sides to that discussion. I am concerned when I see
everyone on TV saying, "Oh you must go on as before, otherwise
the terrorists win." To me that sounds like a sound-bite or a mantra.
It sounds like a pro-business/pro-government ideology at work.

Yes society continues, but business as usual? Un-uh.

Joel

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Yes, there is always two sides of the discussion. I agree that it is difficult to move on sometimes and that some people will remain hesitant. While I agree that it does seem pro-business or pro-government, that's not my point. My point is:

1. Politics should stay out of the discussion. This is ENGLAND, not America. We are certainly not in a position to throw our political ideologies onto them. They react differently because they are a different culture.

2. Just as I would say with any other country, people should not be afraid to go to London. London will survive. It's an atrocity that it happened, but if you fear it in the future, you are only hurting yourself by denying yourself the opportunity to see their great city.

3. I get irritated when people ramble about seeing the footage. WHO CARES? I don't want to see it. I find it grossly displeasing to see people getting blown up in a bus. It's inhumane and not something that I would consider newsworthy.

4. I am not saying that business should go as usual. Of course, it should attempt to but that's part of being human, we are impacted by these events as we should be. Business can never go on as usual, but you can make your best attempt to do just that. You cannot let fear dictate your course in where you travel. If you want to go to London, go. If you want to go to Israel, go. Don't let terrorists dictate your life, or they will win.

Hope that clarifies my points.

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Tim

I agree completely. Thanks for the astute post.


Joel

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I don't know, I think it's rather human and not particularly american to watch footage. people everywhere are drawn to watch horrible things...out of curiosity or whatever. I'm not sure I see that as political.

People say go on as before b/c they don't really know how to deal with it. In reality, it willbe a while before you adjust completely. You should try to do something, if you feel there is something to be done. You don't have to be a talking head yammering about going on as before all the while hiring extra security and living in a bunker. To some extent though, life does go on, ready or not.

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