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Geno · #31 (**permalink**) 12-17-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by peacemover

My point is this, Jason- the U.S. gave Iraq their biological weapons in the 80's, however, the most recent round of inspections did not reveal any WMDs. All indications are that they were destroyed. The process of inspection was moving along, and there was insufficient justification to launch a military invasion such as Mr. Bush did.

Also, the war in Iraq has very little to do with the so-called war on terror. Terrorists and there weapons are still out there- what needs to be done to combat that problem is to drastically improve our security infrastructures.

This war was about Mr. Bush pursuing his own interests, then wrapping himself in the flag- plain and simple.

Dropping bombs on a nation, unprovoked, supposedly in the name of peace is not only an oxymoron- it doesn't work. If anything, I fear that the terrorists may have only been emboldened by this ill-advised, unjustified war.

Peace,

J

Well said Peace. I couldn't agree more.

zogby blob · #32 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno

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I know it's hard to initiate any original thought after so many years of following, but nows as good a time as any to start.

Wow, that's a bit of a personal slam there. I guess considering your deeply felt principles about the validity of this war and it's importance to the survival of the free world, you'll be rushing down to the recruiting station to do your part. As did Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and those egg-head neo-cons like William Kristol back in their day.

I guess we all can't play an instrument for the army.

zogby blob · #33 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Geno

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Originally Posted by peacemover

My point is this, Jason- the U.S. gave Iraq their biological weapons in the 80's, however, the most recent round of inspections did not reveal any WMDs. All indications are that they were destroyed. The process of inspection was moving along, and there was insufficient justification to launch a military invasion such as Mr. Bush did.

Also, the war in Iraq has very little to do with the so-called war on terror. Terrorists and there weapons are still out there- what needs to be done to combat that problem is to drastically improve our security infrastructures.

This war was about Mr. Bush pursuing his own interests, then wrapping himself in the flag- plain and simple.

Dropping bombs on a nation, unprovoked, supposedly in the name of peace is not only an oxymoron- it doesn't work. If anything, I fear that the terrorists may have only been emboldened by this ill-advised, unjustified war.

Peace,

J

Well said Peace. I couldn't agree more.

You can only do so much to tighten security. Pre-emptive action is sometimes required. Especially with all the PC crap and big brother freeks screaming everytime we try.

eldondre · #34 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 04:14 PM

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and big brother freeks screaming everytime we try.

wow, at least you take dissent seriously. you Republicans take bullheadedness as courage. it's not. how come all teh biggest hawks never fought in a war? Bush was friggin AWOL for a year in the national guard. pansy.

zogby blob · #35 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 05:30 PM

There's a reason the comander in chief is a civilian. The framers didn't want a military man in charge of the military. No, you people call them chicken hawks. If that's what you want to call it, fine, but it was done that way on purpose.

El. I'd rather talk about drugs with you. All this argueing is making me think you don't like me :wink: :lol:

John T · #36 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 06:54 PM

Not taking sides here. Just throwing some facts out there.

29 Presidents served in the military, only 5 of which did not see action.

13 Presidents did not serve in the military.

Which leaves one, but I don't know who's missing from the list.

Geno · #37 (**permalink**) 12-18-2003, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zogby blob

There's a reason the comander in chief is a civilian. The framers didn't want a military man in charge of the military. No, you people call them chicken hawks. If that's what you want to call it, fine, but it was done that way on purpose.

Yes, they did want a civilian in charge, as it should be. I don't think anyone is arguing against that. However, as John T pointed out, many presidents served earlier in their lives. The problem isn't that the chicken hawks aren't in the military now, it's that most of them avoided military service when they were needed. They skipped out on their obligations yet dream up wars for others to fight when they have no idea what the real human costs are. They chose not to pay themselves.

SteveJohnston · #38 (**permalink**) 12-23-2003, 02:59 PM

Whoa, can we please stop going after each other and have a discussion? How much of a factor do you think military experience is for a President? There have been some very good presidents with and without military experience, but which is better...what do you think?

regman · #39 (**permalink**) 01-22-2004, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyTIM

Well I guess by now we've all heard that Saddam Hussein had been captured by the United States near his hometown of Tikrit. What's your thoughts about the situation?

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...5&pageNumber=0

Do you think the US will let Saddam stand trial in an Iraq court? Like the article points out, any public trial might expose some embarassing facts for our government. I think it will never happen. :oops:

eldondre · #40 (**permalink**) 01-22-2004, 12:21 PM

then they can just block out the media exposure like with the milosevic trial.

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