http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=3856067

Is this something the US should be involved in?

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Jason
Lynn Swann 06'

"Individualism is absent when other peoples' standards, not reality and reason, are ones primary guide."

I'm not sure what you're asking. My thoughts on this are that the military has very cut and dried ways of doing everything. Everything has a definite step by step procedure. Commanding officers know this well. When someone strays outside of the lines there will be an investigation that also follows a set procedure. That's how the military is, plain and simple. If it wasn't like that it would cease to be able to perform it's main function, that is risking their lives to try to destroy an enemy that's trying to get them first. Some consideration will be given to all the extenuating circumstances and a decision will be made that closely follows regulations. Sometimes the military is ugly and doesn't seem to make sense to outsiders, but it works when bullets are flying precisely because people follow procedures. That being said, I wish the man luck.
Gene

gene,
iagree. it's tough. most of us would plop bricks in at that given situation and i think that's normal. i think for most of uswe'd need to thoroughly trained to act even while we were pooping bricks . sorry if that wasn't intelligent enough but i think most of us would resort to bodily functions if thrown into that position.

Lt. Col. Allen West will not receive a court martial. He will instead receive a repremand. He will be allowed to retire and receive his pention and finally become a teacher, his life long goal.

"Lt. Col. Allen B. West will accept Article 15 non-judicial punishment from the commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division at a hearing Friday in Tikrit, Iraq, said Neal A. Puckett, a retired Marine officer. "

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=36062

Do you think this was the right decision?

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Jason
Lynn Swann 06'

"Individualism is absent when other peoples' standards, not reality and reason, are ones primary guide."

I think its too harsh and strangely ironic. We punish this soldiar for using strong arm tactics to save lives and he receives a reprimand, and then we imprison 600 "terrorist" at Guantamono Bay without much shelter and that's OK. The only thing this soldier is guilty of is poor judgement by either publizing his torture, or allowing weaker men to witness it and then report it, or by admiting his transgression when questioned. It's war dammit, torture should be allowed. That's why they invented cyanide pills.

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Philly Chit Chat
www.PhillyChitChat.com/

I wasn't there to see what happened as were none of us. A proper investigation found that there was some sort of major breach of procedure. The man was a Commander and must be held to a high standard. Even still, he gave much of his life in service, so I am glad he was allowed to retire and keep his pension.

After the incedent, he told his superior officer what he did. His superior officer let it slide until someone, we don't know who, told a reporter about the incident.

What on earth does Guantonomo Bay have to do with this? I think you're going for a bit of a strech there HughE.

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Jason
Lynn Swann 06'

"Individualism is absent when other peoples' standards, not reality and reason, are ones primary guide."

I believe that if the CO of 4th ID himself adjudicated the UCMJ action that everything was taken into account. I don't think the Major General would be terribly swayed by a reporter. It's easy to have all sorts of opinions but there are regulations that are followed.

He didn't say a word until the story got picked up.

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Jason
Lynn Swann 06'

"Individualism is absent when other peoples' standards, not reality and reason, are ones primary guide."

Do you mean the General?