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Old 05-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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Washington - Czech President Vaclav Klaus said Tuesday he is ready to debate Al Gore about global warming, as he presented the English version of his latest book that argues environmentalism poses a threat to basic human freedoms. "I many times tried to talk to have a public exchange of views with him, and he's not too much willing to make such a conversation," Klaus said. "So I'm ready to do it."Klaus was speaking a the National Press Building in Washington to present his new book, Blue Planet in Green Shackles - What Is Endangered: Climate or Freedom?, before meeting with Vice President Dick Cheney Wednesday. "My answer is it is our freedom and, I might add, and our prosperity," he said. Gore a former US vice president who has become a leading international voice in the cause against global warming, was co-winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize. Gore's effort was highlighted by his Oscar winning documentary film An Inconvienent Truth. Klaus, an economist, said he opposed the "climate alarmism" perpetuated by environmentalism trying to impose their ideals, comparing it to the decades of communist rule he experienced growing up in Soviet-dominated Czechoslovakia. "Like their (communist) predecessors, they will be certain that they have the right to sacrifice man and his freedom to make their idea reality," he said. "In the past, it was in the name of the Marxists or of the proletariat - this time, in the name of the planet," he added. Klaus said a free market should be used to address environmental concerns and said he oppposed as unrealistic regulations or greenhouse gas capping systems designed to reduce the impact of climate change. "It could be even true that we are now at a stage where mere facts, reason and truths are powerless in the face of the global warming propaganda," he said. Klaus alleged that the global warming was being championed by scientists and other environmentalists whose careers and funding requires selling the public on global warming. "It is in the hands of climatologists and other related scientists who are highly motivated to look in one direction only," Klaus said.

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Well according to Gore the debate is over, before there even was one.

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Little by little, people are starting to find out that Global Warming is a movie plot used as a scare tactic by eco-nuts to make people give up control of their lives.
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To fight global warming, I keep my carbon footprint smaller than Al Gore's.

It's not that hard, really.
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Little by little, people are starting to find out that Global Warming is a movie plot used as a scare tactic by eco-nuts to make people give up control of their lives.
The truth that CO2 caused Global warming is a hoax:
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To fight global warming, I keep my carbon footprint smaller than Al Gore's.

It's not that hard, really.
You maintain a staff and an office like Gore does? Or do you think he personally uses 20x more energy than you do?

Gore buys carbon offsets to make up for his high energy use.

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– In his private life, Gore tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible. He drives a hybrid, flies commercially whenever he can, and purchases green power. In the few instances where work has demanded that he travel privately, he purchases carbon offsets for the emissions.
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Maybe Gore should build a huge water balloon and shoot it at the sun. That is the only way he will stop "global warming".
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Get with the program Chief!!!

http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview...ticle_continue

"The scientists are virtually screaming from the rooftops now," Gore says, his voice rising. "The debate is over! There's no longer any debate in the scientific community about this. But the political systems around the world have held this at arm's length because it's an inconvenient truth, because they don't want to accept that it's a moral imperative."

"He advises both Google and Apple and has successful businesses, including a green investment company in London founded with David Blood ("I wanted to call it Blood and Gore . . .") and the Current cable TV company."
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"Like their (communist) predecessors, they will be certain that they have the right to sacrifice man and his freedom to make their idea reality," he said. "In the past, it was in the name of the Marxists or of the proletariat - this time, in the name of the planet," he added.
Johnny, you said a mouthful by posting this...Al Gore is a complete and utter bull **** artist, and if you research into his family history, and who they are connected with, you will understand the Gore family....the reference of the Czech to the Communists is VERY relevant in the case of the Gores.
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Maybe Gore should build a huge water balloon and shoot it at the sun. That is the only way he will stop "global warming".
Global warming is natural. Same as Global cooling.

The point is not to overtax the ability of the Globe to regulate temperatures. Warming/Cooling is going to happen naturally but do you really want your spawn to be alive during an age without iceburgs or too many of them?

You can question Gore but do you question that the icecaps are melting? Do you question the effects that can have?

No point in debating. Either you work with Nature or you work against it and be willing to face the consequences.
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Ezra,

You think the enviromental lobby can gerrymander Nature to do what we want?

You need to catch up on your Spinoza.
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