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Old 04-07-2008, 06:31 PM
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So beating the military down and sending them to an unwinnable war, over multiple deployments, and a VA system that was shown to be a tad-bit 3rd world (Walter Reed)...

What are we doing in Iraq, again?

Because if I remember, we were there specifically to get weapons of mass destruction. This was was pounded home to us by Dick Cheany.

Now it has turned into this nightmare and we just keep sending our children over there for... what's the reason again?



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You guess. See, that's why you're so wrong about so many things - you don't think them through, you guess and you arrive at absurd conclusions, like I don't care (see, I expressed your thought without the vulgarity) about our dead and wounded soldiers. That's based on nothing at all but you hoping to smear me as some heartless war monger.
On the other hand, you did say:
1. That you don't care about jihadi terrorists killing innocent civilians.
2. That your concern for the well being of the troops is really about them being a drain on our healthcare system.
Now THAT's heartless.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:43 PM
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Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when asked what the 9/11 attacks means for relations between the US and Israel, replies, “It’s very good.” Then he edits himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” [New York Times, 9/12/2001] A week later, the Village Voice states, “From national networks to small-town newspapers, the view that America’s terrible taste of terrorism will finally do away with even modest calls for the restraint of Israel’s military attacks on Palestinian towns has become an instant, unshakable axiom.… Now, support for Israel in America is officially absolute, and Palestinians are cast once again as players in a global terrorist conspiracy.”
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:16 PM
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So beating the military down and sending them to an unwinnable war, over multiple deployments, and a VA system that was shown to be a tad-bit 3rd world (Walter Reed)...

What are we doing in Iraq, again?

Because if I remember, we were there specifically to get weapons of mass destruction. This was was pounded home to us by Dick Cheany.

Now it has turned into this nightmare and we just keep sending our children over there for... what's the reason again?
  1. The military doing its job that it's been equiped and trained for is not beating it down. Do soldiers get tired in time of war? Yes. But that's not a reason for not fighting wars.
  2. The war is not unwinable by any means or reasonable account. You probably arrived at this idea via the same type of sources that led you to wax awe-inspired about the mighty Mahdi Army... Iraq's Sadr to disband Mehdi Army if clerics order http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080407/wl_nm/iraq_dc
  3. I've been treated at Walter Reed and had family members treated there. It is not third world and VA Hospitals are routinely ranked as superior to hospitals availible to the general public.
  4. If you need to be reminded yet again, of all the reasons we went to war, read President Bush's 2003 SOTU Address. You'll find your faulty memory has betrayed you yet again. Facts are pesky things.
  5. We do not "send children to war". We have an all volunteer Armed Forces and it is comprised of adults.
Frank:
Again with the Jew-hatred and conspiracy theories? I have to agree with jizay: You should give that a rest and spend your time earning a living rather than living off the teet of Mother Government.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:29 PM
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Tanny: If you are angry at the Mother Teet of government, then you should mail your Social Security checks back to the U.S. Treasury when you start receiving them.


- So, the "11 words"... that was just a big mistake Prez Bush made.
- As a Yankee (everybody who lives north of Tennessee is called that by TX-ans), I find it hilarious that you defend a president from my home state who many TX-ans privately regard an asshat, and that's not just the people around Austin who think that way.

By the way, my brother was sent to Iraq (111th Medevac) the first time around and he's voting Obama. He served 1988-1997, got out to work as a govt contractor (on the teet) disarming US chemical weapons at Johnson Atoll.

When my Republican brother tells me the Bush family is full of... how does he say the word... oh yes, f___ktards... I listen.


I'm sure you'll march off with YOUR president to the very end, huh?
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:02 PM
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Tanny: If you are angry at the Mother Teet of government, then you should mail your Social Security checks back to the U.S. Treasury when you start receiving them.
I don't like to give out identifying personal information on the net, but I'm younger than 55. Therefore, there's about zero chance I'll ever receive Social Security checks. I don't/won't get Medicare or Medicaid either.
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- So, the "11 words"... that was just a big mistake Prez Bush made.
I have to tip my hand here: I don't have any clue what you're talking about, "11 words"? I even went so far as to google that along with other words to try and figure it out, but I'm coming up blank.
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By the way, my brother was sent to Iraq (111th Medevac) the first time around and he's voting Obama... When my Republican brother...
Your brother either has no understanding of politics whatsoever, isn't a Republican at all, or calls himself a Republican but stands in direct opposition to every principle the Republican party stands for. Or, possibly all three.
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I'm sure you'll march off with YOUR president to the very end, huh?
Again, wild guessing and even wilder conclusions. I'm simply defending truth and facts. As far as Bush goes, I've said many times that he ought to be impeached and removed from office.
So you're dead wrong... yet again.
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- So, the "11 words"... that was just a big mistake Prez Bush made.
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This appears to be eight words, and as near as I can tell they're attributed to noted vulgarian Tony Auth, hardly a mouth piece for the Bush Administration.
Generally, it's not a good idea to go to a cartoon to back up allegations, but since Iraq had been changed from a dictatorship to a functioning Democracy with a Constitution, al Queda has, by their own estimation, been routed, and every major insurgent group disarmed, yeah, I'd say our Brave Fighting Men and Women have done a job worthy of applause.
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This appears to be eight words, and as near as I can tell they're attributed to noted vulgarian Tony Auth, hardly a mouth piece for the Bush Administration.
Generally, it's not a good idea to go to a cartoon to back up allegations, but since Iraq had been changed from a dictatorship to a functioning Democracy with a Constitution, al Queda has, by their own estimation, been routed, and every major insurgent group disarmed, yeah, I'd say our Brave Fighting Men and Women have done a job worthy of applause.
Finally..., Mission Accomplished.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? - Psalm 27:1


"But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known".................Luke 12:2...............words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

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So how much are you getting paid Tannhauser?

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/03/report-recruit.html
Bingo. It's the only way an overweight computer nerd super-patriot who has been rejected from serving in Iraq can still serve his country. Rather... his President since he's actually harming his country.

The Facts:

- rabidly pro-Bush
- religious
- always on the boards
- hyper educated on current events concerning warfare
- secretive
- latently homosexual
- young enough to serve but can't and not openly gay

Tann... the 2006 liquid explosion attack has long since been shown to be a hoax. The British government was on to these jokers for a year. The "foiled attack" was a staged event to artificially heighten lagging terrorism fear.

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In an Aug. 28th article in the New York Times, senior British officials admitted that public statements made following the arrest of suspects plotting to destroy airliners using liquid explosives were overcooked, inaccurate and "unfortunate." Revelations in the nearly 3,000-word story are startlingly out of sync with the doomsday rhetoric we promptly heard, and continue to hear, from the media and government. We learn the conspirators had been known to law enforcement officials for at least a year, and were under round-the-clock surveillance for quite some time. The plot's leaders were still in the process of recruiting and radicalizing would-be bombers. They lacked passports and airline tickets and, most critical of all, they had been thus far unsuccessful in producing liquid explosives.

"Questions about the immediacy and difficulty of the suspected bombing plot cast doubt on the accuracy of some of the public statements made at the time," the article concludes. That's a convoluted way of saying the plotters were likely months from pulling off the massive, synchronized attack we've been told was only days away. "The reactions of Britain and the United States," the story continues, "... were driven less by information about a specific, imminent attack than fear that other, unknown terrorists might strike." As for the scope of the attack, British investigators described the widely parroted report that up to 10 U.S. airliners had been targeted as "speculative" and "exaggerated."
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