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Old 01-07-2008, 01:59 AM
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I thought perhaps there should be a thread on business news from India. Ed Rendell had met some Indian delegations while they were visiting the U.S., but I wonder if PA and Philly can do more to get in direct contact with Indian commerce and make mutually-benefical ventures.


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India Investment Booms With Third Year of 9% GDP Growth in '08

Jan. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Gordon Brown's plane will have barely departed New Delhi's Indira Gandhi International Airport this month before Nicolas Sarkozy's arrives with another contingent of executives seeking opportunities in India's rapidly opening markets.
The British prime minister and the French president, separately visiting the week of Jan. 20, are bringing along commercial delegations including retailers Tesco Plc and Carrefour SA, attracted by a burgeoning middle class and loosening curbs on foreign ownership in the nation of 1.1 billion people.
Overseas investment in India may double in 2008 for a second straight year to reach $30 billion, the government forecasts, as the world's second-fastest growing major economy arrives at what Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. calls its ``take- off'' point. That's when consumer demand and business spending start feeding off one another and drive even more investment.

``India's growth acceleration is not a flash in the pan,'' says Robert Subbaraman, chief economist at Lehman Brothers Asia in Hong Kong. ``A middle class is fast emerging, which is spurring demand as consumption and investment interact.''
Like China and South Korea in previous decades, India is benefiting from an increasingly open economy that has already stimulated enough growth to double per-capita income since 2000, according to Lehman. The resulting surge in demand for consumer goods has tripled mobile phone use in two years and fueled a 29 percent jump in sales of microwave ovens in 2007, Lehman says.
Purchasing Power
With the explosion of purchasing power, India's economy is poised to expand 9 percent for a third straight year, while the U.S., Europe and Japan slow to less than 3 percent growth.
McKinsey & Co., the New York-based consulting firm, estimates that India's middle class -- those with annual disposable incomes between $4,380 and $21,890 in current dollars -- will increase more than 10-fold to 583 million by 2025.
India's appeal is more than a matter of demographics. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who as finance minister in 1991 started dismantling barriers to foreign investment and other Soviet- style controls on industry, is preparing to permit overseas companies to build retail chains in the country. That's prompting interest from companies including Hertfordshire-based Tesco, Britain's largest retailer, and Paris-based Carrefour, which operates supermarkets on four continents.
Bigger Stakes
Singh's government is also moving to raise the limit on foreign equity stakes in local insurers to 49 percent from 26 percent, and has a roadmap to let foreign banks increase holdings in India's private banks. Brown's party will include representatives of Prudential Plc, the U.K.'s second-biggest insurer, and Barclays Plc, the No. 3 British bank, both based in London.
``India has long been noted for its superb `micro' -- good companies, rule of law, democracy,'' says Stephen Roach, chairman of Morgan Stanley in Asia. ``What has been missing is the `macro' -- foreign direct investments, infrastructure. What's encouraging to me about India now is that the macro is starting to improve and is reinforcing the already positive micro.''
Foreign ownership in telecommunications has helped India become the world's third-largest user of telecom services after China and the U.S. It's the world's fastest-growing wireless market.
`Heart of Globalization'
``India is a country of enormous opportunity; it's the heart of globalization in a way,'' says Ben Verwaayen, chief executive officer of London-based BT Group Plc, the U.K.'s largest phone company. ``You see a growing base for companies from around the globe, being here not just for this region itself, but being here as a kind of base for what they can do in other parts of the world as well.''
San Jose, California-based Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest maker of computer-networking equipment, plans to triple its Indian workforce to 10,000 by 2010, Chief Executive Officer John Chambers said in October.
Automakers including General Motors Corp. and Suzuki Motor Corp. are spending more than $6.6 billion to build new factories in the country. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP says India's auto output will grow about 17 percent annually until 2011, the fastest among the 20 largest carmaking nations.
India's higher profile in the global economy not only makes it a magnet for foreign investment, but also gives its companies a bigger role on the world stage.
Overseas Acquisitions
Indian companies led by Tata Steel Ltd. and Hindalco Industries Ltd., both based in Mumbai, completed a record $39.2 billion of overseas acquisitions in 2007.
Tata's $12.9 billion purchase of Britain's Corus Group Plc, the biggest overseas takeover by an Indian company, made it the world's fifth-biggest steelmaker. Buying Novelis Inc. of Atlanta provided Hindalco, India's biggest aluminum producer, access to customers such as GM and Coca-Cola Co. The trend is continuing: Tata Motors Ltd. of Mumbai, India's largest truckmaker, last week was selected as the preferred bidder for Ford Motor Co.'s Jaguar and Land Rover units, the U.S. automaker announced.
Brown and Sarkozy are joining a parade of world leaders coming to India with agendas that include closer commercial ties. U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, visiting in October, said U.S. companies will participate in India's $500 billion program to modernize roads, ports, power and other infrastructure by 2012. The U.S. will help India transform its financial capital, Mumbai, into an international financial center, he said.
During an August visit, then Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Japan will help plan a $90 billion infrastructure corridor between New Delhi and Mumbai, including freight lines, power stations and improved access to ports and airports.
Impediment
Such projects may reduce one of the biggest remaining impediments to doing business in India -- poor infrastructure. For all the expansion in the Indian market, its foreign direct investment still pales in comparison to what China has received -- about $60 billion in each of the past three years.
It takes 24 days for Indian exports to reach the U.S. compared with only 15 days from China and 12 from Hong Kong, according to Lehman Brothers.
``If India doesn't get its act together on infrastructure urgently, then it can never realize its aim of accelerating growth,'' says Vineet Agarwal, executive director of Gurgaon- based Transport Corporation of India Ltd., the nation's biggest cargo transportation and logistics services company.
Even as India's economy reaches take-off speed, almost 300 million people continue to live on less than $1 a day, according to the World Bank.
Fewer Poor
The absolute number of poor in India fell for the first time between 1999 and 2004 after the government's policies to allow more foreign investment and reduce regulation on industry spurred growth, according to the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
``The Chinese take-off began in the 1980s and didn't show through in terms of increased living standards for the majority for quite some time,'' says Howard Davies, director of the London School of Economics and a former chairman of the U.K. Financial Services Authority. ``Just the same way, India has got the economic take-off but it needs to be sustained for a decade before you really see the place looking different.''
-- With reporting by Chris Burns and Carol Massar in New Delhi Editors: Mark Rohner, Christopher Wellisz
To contact the reporter on this story: Cherian Thomas in New Delhi at cthomas1@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: January 6, 2008 14:32 EST
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One sixth (18%) of the world's population lives in India.

Another one sixth live in China.

One out of every three people on this planet lives in India & China.
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phillyaggie:

Do you think this growth is sustainable given how badly the dollar is dropping in value?

Nobody really publishes a daily account of what's happening between the dollar and the rupee, but are you aware of a parity gap closing between the two currencies?


India doesn't have huge reserves of oil lying around, while Russia does. I'm more interested in forging a tighter economic bond between the US and Russia than profits made on exchange gaps which run the risk of disappearing. One big Russian multinational that has crossed the ocean and setup a very visible shop is Russian Lukoil (Lukos).
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Philly Car Share need to buy a crapload of these Air Cars ...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

They also need to export a couple of Pan men though it's hard to get good betel nuts around here I'm sure we can dig up a bunch of calcium carbonate.
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lol @ "pan men" you're addicted to that stuff, capn?! You have to find some good indian grocery store or someplace like that which may have the stuff. Or crash a good Indian wedding...!
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phillyaggie:

Do you think this growth is sustainable given how badly the dollar is dropping in value?

Nobody really publishes a daily account of what's happening between the dollar and the rupee, but are you aware of a parity gap closing between the two currencies?


India doesn't have huge reserves of oil lying around, while Russia does. I'm more interested in forging a tighter economic bond between the US and Russia than profits made on exchange gaps which run the risk of disappearing. One big Russian multinational that has crossed the ocean and setup a very visible shop is Russian Lukoil (Lukos).
Yes, the Indian rupee has been appreciating against the dollar, but the Indian "Fed" has been pumping out liquidity and soaking up the dollar from the open market in order to try and keep the Indian exports from losing out due to strong currency. Even so, the rupee has gained more than 15% or so against the dollar.

Is this sustainable?-- For the most part, yes. Most of India's economic output even now is targetted inward. Unlike China or the earstwhile SE Asian "tiger" economies, Indian economy depends more on its own consumption patterns than on exports. You might not want to put money in the stock of Indian high-tech outfits that depend largely on exports, such as InfoSys or Wipro... those guys are reeling.

One place where Philly-area companies can certainly do more is in the drugs/biotech sector, which is where India is also booming and is one of those partnership sectors. Drugs giants from Philly could conceivably outsource patient drug trials and such to India, while India can import high tech instrumentation for its growing labs from places like Ametek (in Paoli, I believe).

As for Russian cooperation in energy sector, I recently read a big article (a "net assessment") about U.S. strategic posture vis a vis Russia and Asian countries as also the Islamist havoc. One of the conclusions of the report was that Russia is becoming ever-powerful due to its energy resources, and sooner or later, U.S. will have to turn attention to it again and start to be disruptive. So I'm not sure about the possibilities of Russo-American cooperation. On company basis, sure. Philly area oil/gas concerns should focus some attention on the vast Siberian oil fields and the prospects they hold for future production. Just last night I finished reading an in-depth article in BusinessWeek about how Schlumberger has quietly become a force in Russian oil production even though the major integrated companies have been kicked out over the years. Any Philly-area tech-based company that can provide things like siesmic 3-D data or secondary recovery services can benefit immensely by targetting Russia.
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India's population by 2010 will be larger than that of China's.

I think India will be a star on the world stage in terms of a Free Market Economy if- and it's a big if- India addresses her
infrastructure. India needs a modern and efficient infrastructure to not just compete in the world economy, but also to build her own native economy.

Secondly, there's hundreds of millions of muslims in India.
How many of these who will turn radical islam and how they react to the majority Hindu population should be a concern.
This future interaction between the two populations could lead to instabilty.

That being said, India is one of the top 3 places I want to visit.
I want to see the real India. Not this american born india fake crap I see at Penn. The real India.
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Controlled Chaos that is hard for the American mind to comprehend. Amazingly beautiful colors amongst appallingly impoverished conditions. NOISE, Noise, Noise. Very hard to describe but one of those trips of a lifetime type things, and you will never be able to experience even a tenth of India or even a hundredth of India in one trip even if it is 18 days. Research the hell out of it and then pick your destinations carefully.
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I believe that if the Indian people get educated and embrace equality in their country, the place will be great. I've never met a stupid or unlikeable Indian, though I'm sure they exist, and that's because there's lots of good core values in the culture.
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Here's a satellite view of the world at night. What I found interesting about this how easily you can see India and how dark the area around it is. Also how even the lighting is throughout the country.

http://www.wildwildweather.com/geogr...ights_2048.jpg
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