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TANNHAUSER: I can't help but think Pakistan is how The Lord punishes people who pray to a false God.

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JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system..

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The simplest way to correct this would be to elect Pat Robertson as president. If he was president instead of G. W. Bush then the World Trade Ctr. would still be there and Katrina would have gone straight to Cuba and stayed there until Fidel left.

Why were we so blind.

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Uh, British and French. Again, history, not a strong suit of yours.
The muslims to this day would have been unable to extract it and wouldn't have known how to refine it.

What does Creationism have to do with any of this???
Look at world migration paterns.
Are people moving TO Africa/China/India aka stink-holes?
Are people moving FROM Africa/China/India?
(hint: The answer is FROM)
China is a country where 2/3rds of the population hasn't made a telephone call.
India is a country where people live for generations in neighborhoods built in, with, and on refuse. Open sewers, diseases eradicated in the civilized world, malnutrition. That's India.

And you could point to Germany, Italy, and other nations. Yes, countries get off track, but in countries with Judeo Christian values (the west) they recover. In false God Nations, they stay that way.

To add to your knowledge, Africa is split between TRIBES, which far supercedes even nationality and certainly religion.
The amount of people who identify themselves by religion is negligble. In order to understand anything about African "civilizations" you need to understand tribes.

But the one truth you'll never be able to get around is HUMAN MIGRATION PATTERNS. People don't want to move to India, they want to come here. The phenomena continues with every false god country and every country founded on JudeoChristian values.

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dude, if that's your understanding of history, then I pity you. India was the richest country in the world until Judeo-Christian butchers, money horders, and other sinners from Britain and Portugal decided to come and make raids, and before then, it was the Islamic numbnuts. People wanted to come *to* India... that's how they "discovered" America. Perhaps you need a lesson in first grade American history.


Your thesis on JudeoChristianity is really stupid and the further you go down it, the more stupid you look. And its a truly artificial divide... its more like Abrahamic religions, which include the Muslims that you hate so much! Your JudeoChristianity is just the flip side of the coin to Islam... both (all 3 of them) came from the same stupid ideas of "god" and "heaven" and "hell."


And as far as people wanting to come to America...rest assured, its a temporary phenom. The pendulum of history/time always swings back! Already, Indian is experiencing a reverse brain-drain or brain-gain....all those techies that came to America and enriched it are leaving it, and are going back to India, and starting their own enterprises. Same goes for China.

Wharton MBA's *want* to have their internships in China and India, not some has-been industry back Stateside.

If you notice, America lags far behind Japan and Korea when it comes to wireless networks, internet connectivity, and so forth.

That's the misery of average Americans...they've been fed this religion bug by Republicans and now all they do is vote their religion while their economy shrinks...but hey, they're very boastful and proud of their "JudeoChristian civilization." How ironic...being boastful and proud, another hallmark of true Christianity, yep.

I think I've given enough points to PBers who might be reading this thread about how silly your arguments are, and will just leave it at that, hopefully.

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Is it ghey that I love this song so much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_Wc6Nm8lc

I guess you could say I'm not as jaded about "stuff" such as enduring love yet...

If they were so rich, and not living in a backward false God hell hole, then why couldn't they defend themselves? England and Portugul never had anywhere near the population India did, so they sure weren't over run.
Also, people didn't want to go to India to migrate there. They did it for trade purposes. That's why there aren't a lot of white people walking around New Delhi.

It correlates directly with stink-hole non stink-hole countries. You can have Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Chad. I'll take America, Canada, and England.


They go back to India and China when their visas expire... or at least they should. Ya think India and China have problems with American visa overstays? I'm gonna bet not.

Two technologies that were invented in the west.

What's truly silly is you arguing against the massive tide of humanity. People simply don't yearn to live in false god countries like they do JudeoChristian countries. Your points are wrong and measurable facts overwhelm your weak arguments.

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If they were so rich, and not living in a backward false God hell hole, then why couldn't they defend themselves?

Because their true God didn't teach them to be evil-spirited and cunning like English and Protuguese false gods taught them to. In Eastern culture, a visitor/guest is to be afforded utmost welcome and not treated like they are about to take your weath and kick you in the nuts. But obviously that teaching didn't take into consideration the ugly selfishness and cunning behavior bred into the "West" by its false religion and false worship to a false and fallible god.

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England and Portugul never had anywhere near the population India did, so they sure weren't over run.

Exactly. India has, at least for the past 7 thousand years, 1/6th the human population of the planet. England and Portugal were caves when India already had the Indus Valley Civilization.

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Also, people didn't want to go to India to migrate there. They did it for trade purposes. That's why there aren't a lot of white people walking around New Delhi.

No, they probably had a whole bunch of skin-color superiority complex and so didn't marry the Indians, kinda like what you exhibit. Though there are enough of them that at least one Parliament seat is reserved for their representation in India.

I'm just induling you here, in that I'm mirroring your putrid hatred and seeing how you feel when you read it written about you/your background.

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It correlates directly with stink-hole non stink-hole countries. You can have Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Chad. I'll take America, Canada, and England.

The stink-holes were carved out by your craven ancestors who had nothing in their own homelands so they had to go and attack other peaceful humans. They did this everywhere they went. You should visit the British Museum sometime...that's where you will find the worldwide loot stashed away...almost nothing of signifiance made by a local... all loot. Well guess what?--If a bunch of Indians and Chinese overran your piece of **** white place, you would be run over into the North Sea! You should thank us for our peaceful demeanor.

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They go back to India and China when their visas expire... or at least they should. Ya think India and China have problems with American visa overstays? I'm gonna bet not.

Actually, many an American has stayed past his/her visa after enjoying the blissful peace exhibited by Indian culture. And the tech workers that go back, take their knowledge with them. You might not be aware of some stats, but as much as 40% of Silicon Valley businesses were either started-up by Indians or had significant Indian leadership involved. Without us, you would not know how to even turn on your PC, nevermind typing gibberish from your hell hole lonely apt!

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Two technologies that were invented in the west.

Which get me to my point made earlier. If you are going to parcel out technologies and inventions, guess what... the entire computer technology is dependent on the binary code... 0 and 1. And 0 was invented by the Hindus. If Indians had not invented the Hindu numerals, and Arabs had not provided it to Europeans by way of trade, your ancestors wouldn't even know how to do basic algebra! Al Gebr being the Arab guy who got it to you, via India.


What JudeoChristian countries have done is ravage the planet Earth in a mere few hundred years that they had supremacy... India and China, with their huge populations and vast civilizations, were able to not only be rich but sustain their knowledge and culture for several thousand years without imperiling the Earth. The JudeoChristian nut cases ran roughshod of this planet unlike anyone else, and now we all have to pay the price for your evil-doing. Do you feel great about that?! Oh wait, you're probably one of those who thinks everything's hunky-dory with Earth's climate!

The massive tide of humanity has always resided in Asia. Europe was a frozen hell hole and even now doesn't have as many resources as do other parts of the Earth which are more sustainable for human habitation. If your JudeoChristianMuslim False God was that powerful, wouldn't you think that he would have made room for your white asses in Asia instead of in a frozen hell hole with nothing to do other than to kill each other...once done that, then go find others to kill?

Real humans with great inner peace and a real connection to God have lived in Asia long before your False God supposedly walked the Earth, and will continue to do so long after you and your kind have been remedied of your illness which is this stupid belief in some stupid inhumane deceitful cowardly false god.

You know, you're a real piece of work. Nice knowing ya. Not!

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Is it ghey that I love this song so much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_Wc6Nm8lc

I guess you could say I'm not as jaded about "stuff" such as enduring love yet...

I've also heard that BP and Sunoco don't use mid eastern oil. There was one other but I can't remember which one it was.

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I'm absolutely certain that I never said my wife wasn't of Indian ancestry, so what do you base this assumption on?

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Originally Posted by phillyaggie The stink-holes were carved out by your craven ancestors who had nothing in their own homelands so they had to go and attack other peaceful humans.

Actually, they had enough to build the most powerful navy on earth and navigate the entire globe.
These "peaceful humans" were constantly at war with one another and the only thing that kept them from moving to the west was a lack of technology and cohesive society.
Uhm... hate to tell you this, but binary code would work just as well using 1 and 2, or a and x.
Also, electricity is a lot more important to computer technology, something the Indians would still be without if it weren't for JudeoChristian countries.
How ironic. China and India are two of the countries most responsible for the spike in emissions of greenhouse gases that the Al Gore crazies blame for "Global Warming".
Look at the air pollution in a city like Bejing or Mumbai. Look at the 3 Gorges project in China, look at the rapidly expanding Sahara Desert in Africa, look at the Aral Sea. All from FGSH countries.
Did these advances come from:
A. False God Stink Hole Countries
B. JudeoChristian Western Countries
Sewage treatment, vacinations, nutrition, germ theory, sanitation, printing press, telescope, telephone, barometer, anti-biotics, pendulum clock, steam engine, refrigeration,World Wide Web, electric battery, telegraph, camera, lightbulb, x-ray photography, airplanes, radar, microprocessor, CD, DVD, anesthesia.
(Need a hint?)
You are arguing against a literal mountain of fact here. This isn't subjective, it's real and plain for all the world to see. You can have your quaint ideas about folks in the Indus valley, sometime before history, eating mangos under the bohdi tree, but that's of little value when you've got small pox or have a spear stuck in your back.
False God Countries are stink-holes, JudeoChristian ones aren't.
What I find oddest about your argument, though, is the tact that you've taken. Rather than debate my assertion that it's the Divine Providence of JudeoChristian Values, you try to assert that Africa/India/China/etc are just as desireable places to live in and that they've somehow made the same contributions to humanity.
Why not suggest that it was a factor other than Divine Providence of JudeoChristian Values? I've seen interesting (if not convincing) arguments suggesting geography, environmental factors etc.

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I think a better argument could be made that rather than "JudeoChristian" Societies - that the best developed nations are the ones where that evil "Secular Humanism" and "liberal democracy" hold sway and that even in developing countries this true regardless of the dominant religious belief.

In terms of your decidedly un-Christian belief that the origin of material wealth is a reward for believing in Christ, I just want to say this . . .

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How would an argument be better if it only looked at the last 60 years instead of the last 2000?
It's not like JudeoChristian countries were as backward as Africa in the 1950's.

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