An awful lot of fervently Christian Latin America has been a "stinkhole of violence, corruption and tyranny" for quite some time. Uganda is one of the most fervently Christian nations on the African continent. Ever hear of the Lord's Army?

And why exactly did God choose to give those awful Kuwaiti and Saudi heathens so much material wealth?

God if anything is on the side of people who struggle for justice, not nation states.

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A song that says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqITJFGyq4s

AFAIK, Pakistan doesn't have anything that will travel half-way around the world to hit us. They're more of a threat to Indo-China.

We're too busy spending money in Iraq to worry about Pakistan (where the remnants of the leadership of Al Queda still live).

Isn't that great?

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WHYY pays their CEO $750,000 a year. So WHYY should I renew my membership? Seems they have no problems finding money and spending it unwisely.


And this is why you should donate to PACCA, not PETA:

In September, PETA made headlines in Vermont and across the nation for asking Ben & Jerry's ice cream to use human breast milk in their ice cream, instead of cow milk

Every time you put gas in your car, the Muslim terrorists win.

Getting off your fat butt and bicycling, or trading in one of your cars for a reasonable-CC motorcycle, and using public transport can help bankrupt them.

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WHYY pays their CEO $750,000 a year. So WHYY should I renew my membership? Seems they have no problems finding money and spending it unwisely.


And this is why you should donate to PACCA, not PETA:

In September, PETA made headlines in Vermont and across the nation for asking Ben & Jerry's ice cream to use human breast milk in their ice cream, instead of cow milk

A.Q. Kahn, the father of the Pakistani bomb and considered a national hero, sold nuclear technology to Iran, North Korea. He even met with Al Queda. You could say the damage has already been done.

Currently he's under "house arrest".

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A song that says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqITJFGyq4s

I'm no Muslim apologist, so don't even try to paint me as being one.

But let me get this straight: you think you are on Christian god's side because you have material comforts and riches, is that all?
--I thought Jesus taught to live a simple life and give most of your money away to the poor.

You don't think there is any corruption, violence, tyranny in the U.S., present and past?
--I guess a little bit of evil exists even in "God's" own nation, eh Tanny?!


I wonder why this "God" of yours only bestows his blessings on "the West". I guess when India was the richest country in the world for a few thousand years when there wasn't even a civilization in Europe, this "God" must have been smiling on Indians, but now he's frowning on them... and the 50 million Indians who are Christians.

And what about Christians elsewhere mired in complete poverty? The Phillipines, for example.


How sad that one's spiritual connection with a "God" is determined solely on the basis of one's riches and whether one lives in a non-poor country.

In my worldview, if anything, most Americans are going to hell by their own definition of what a "hell" is supposed to be.

You might want to listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbw2GD0t3T4


http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/withgod.html

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Is it ghey that I love this song so much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_Wc6Nm8lc

I guess you could say I'm not as jaded about "stuff" such as enduring love yet...

That's a hilarious example of American Christianity, which is something different than genuine Christianity.

Many Americans believe that Jesus is some kind of genie in a bottle who grants wishes. I'm not sure how it morphed into that, but I'll bet there nothing good about it.

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A song that says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqITJFGyq4s

Gee, I don't seem to remember wholesale slaughters taking place in South America. In fact, they're almost all peaceful democracies and notable for their lack of belicoscity. Compare that to Africa which is disimilar mainly in that it has vast natural resources.
Uganda is the only country on the entire continent that I'd consider spending any time in. And yes I'm familiar with the L/A, it makes headlines whenever Musiveni's troops do battle and crush them.

God didn't give them wealth, the West did. They walked for eons on a sea of sand atop huge oil reserves. They didn't know the oil existed, how to get it out, or what to do with it until the West came and did it for them. Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are the exact type of stink-holes I'm speaking about. Even incomprehensible riches can't elevate them to civilization because their "God" is false.

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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? - Psalm 27:1

How do you come up with this wealth being a geographic and specifically "west" phenomenon? you don't think that if it weren't for American discoveries of oil that nobody else would have found it? Or that its somehow in American tradition to be the wealth creator? I don't quite understand where this line of thinking is coming from.

Are you talking about the cultural patrimony of America in terms of what all discoveries and inventions Americans have produced? If so, then I would say that its despite of America's religiousity and not because of it. Its amazing that Creationists can jump on the science bandwagon when it suits their worldview! lol

Its also true that Islam has been bereft of any scientific thinking at all... it has morphed into a very parochial and backward-ass religion which one can only hope reforms itself and undergoes a renaissance.

But this is not just a Islam-Christianity world, no matter how much you wish it to be. Other nations and cultures that belong to neither of those camps have had a sizable cultural patrimony of their own. The Chinese didn't need a Christian god for them to be the superpowers of the world for a long time, when they invented such things as paper and gun powder. Indians did just fine inventing the zero, the very numeral on which the whole binary system depends! hehe


And whlie you may want to forget about slaughters in South America, they did happen. Ever hear of the Augusto Pinochet, and the thousands of Chileans who "disappeared" while he was leading his ruthless dictatorship?

To my knowledge, Africa is mostly split between Christians and Muslims. There are several Christian-majority countries as well, as they are just as poor and strife-torn. Rwanda, anyone?-- Africa's most Catholic country.

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Is it ghey that I love this song so much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_Wc6Nm8lc

I guess you could say I'm not as jaded about "stuff" such as enduring love yet...

I am not saying us per say but with them already having some IRBM's deployed with longer range models under development I would be worried about them hitting something within their range that would cause us to commit.

Their Shaheen II's have a max range of 1240 miles with a 1000kg payload. The Shaheen III's bump up their range to just over 2000 miles. Tel Aviv is well within the range of the Shaheen III's (which are under development). Most of the middle east is well within their range also.

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Eat your heart out Mr. Obama.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" Benjamin Franklin

Yes there is a place where you wont be treated like a child.