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Old 12-27-2007, 02:08 PM
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Not good news at all. Who is claiming responsibility ?
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:53 PM
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It's time to come home.
Bhutto had just recently "gone home" after years of exile in England. We (the US) had pressured our "ally" Musharaf to agree to her return so as to make the upcoming elections have some degree of credibility and possibly even for Musharaf to enter into a power sharing government with the more secular, non-miliatary Bhutto if he failed to win enough votes.

It was a rare instance where I thought Condi was pursuing the right path for stability vis-a-vis Pakistan. Looking to patch fences with Musharaf as well as reach out to the opposition Afgahnistan's Karzai was supposed to have met with Bhutto today. Sad.
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From Huffington Post...

Bhutto's blog from sept '07.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/benazi...i_b_62792.html
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Not good news at all. Who is claiming responsibility ?
Looks like initial reports are pointing to al Qaeda:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...ecking-al.html
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it could be that Busharraf knew of the plot and didn't do anything to prevent it. Pakistan is a fractious society with a lot of hot-heads everywhere, and loaded with weapons, thanks to the decades of fighting in Afghanistan and Jammu-Kashmir.

Who knows what the motive was to get her killed... someone didn't like that she was a woman? Someone didn't want a corrupt "leader" to come back to power? The military wanted to knock off one of the main power-brokers in the entire country? The Muslim "leaders" of Pakistani politics and society didn't want a semi-secular leader becoming prominent again? There are just so many angles with this story. Nawaz Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League party got rid of its main opponent and also the one that Busharraf wanted to work with (instead of their own leader, who was deposed in the last coup by the presiding General and thus would never work with him to bring back civilian rule).
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We will probably never find out who did this...My feeling is that is
was Musharraf and the Pakistani Intelligence Service (ISI)...the ISI was also in on the 9-11 event, because if you remember, which no one probably does anymore, the morning of 9-11, the head of the ISI met with Donald Rumsfeld in Washington DC..then it was revealed that a couple of the alleged hijackers received checks signed by this same Pakistani spook...this was hushed up very quickly...Musharaf & the ISI are CIA controlled, but, as with any group of gangsters, there is always infighting, and some times things don't work out as planned...this all started back in the Carter administration, when the Polish 'evil genius', Zbigniew
Brezinski, came up withthe brilliant ides of creating a 'mujahadeen'
or Islamic resistance army, to counter the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan...this 'mujahadeen' was a CIA funded group, and was the predecessor of the so-called 'al-Quida'...see what gets unleashed when we stick our nose where it doesn't belong?...also, Pakistan is basically a nation of warlords & certain
'dynastic' families...the Bhutto family has many enemies,as illustrated by the execution Ali Bhutto, Benazir's father,after he was deposed from the Pakistani presidency in a coup...certain
Pakistani political circles wanted her dead.
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Who knows what the motive was to get her killed...
Well, the fact that she made a speech yesterday where she promised to crack down on radical islamists and drive Al Queda out of Pakistan is a pretty good clue.
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Well, the fact that she made a speech yesterday where she promised to crack down on radical islamists and drive Al Queda out of Pakistan is a pretty good clue.
you don't think Musharraf has said the same thing dozens of times? Okay, so he has faced purported assasination attempts himself. But one never really knows who these attackers are.

BTW, do you know that the last military dictator of Pakistan, Gen Zia ul Haq died in a mysterious plane crash in 1989... right after the Soviets decided to withdraw from Afghanistan. Many have said it was the CIA who knocked him off, seeing that the U.S. didn't need his services anymore. Promptly thereafter, U.S. not only left Pakistan (diplomatically speaking), but also yanked all sorts of financial and military aid which until then was flowing to Pakistan (and Afghanistan) uninterrupted. U.S. also refused to send F-16s to Pakistan that it had already paid for. All this because now suddenly U.S. found out (!) that Pakistan was busy developing a nuke bomb and was in cahoots with China and North Korea about it all. So, basically, Pakistan has been used like a fiefdom and its leaders have been bought and sold by Uncle Sam for a long time now. Just like so many other lesser nations had to endure during the Cold War. Then Americans wonder why others "hate us so much." Well, duh. Anyways that a different topic.

All this talk of demoracy (in Pakistan) is really sham to those who have followed the politics of the Indian subcontinent. Just because you have an election doesn't make you a democracy, either. U.S. government never has really cared much about spreading democracy anywhere. It is the pretext used to beat up on those that are seen to be against U.S. interests. Nobody gave a damn in D.C. when Putin went about his war in Cechnya back in 2001...he was dealing with "terrorists" then. Now that oil is expensive and Putin is his own man and doesn't want to play nice with the West, he is suddenly the second coming of Ruskie Bear, out to get us... and he's so undemocractic! haha
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