That has little to do with climate, just where the land mass is in the climate. The evidence of the kind of life which existed millions of years ago indicates a hot swampy world filled with life.

If there's little evidence, then we have the scientific version of the world is ending scenario which religious people have been using for thousands of years. It works best when you set the date a couple of decades in the future, that way you can milk it longer, and people will get tired and not want to kill you as much after such a long period.

If you do jump on the bandwagon, then we're empowering the same kind of hucksters as always.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Deny what? It seems that the sensationalists deny that the planet has heated and cooled before.

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There's nothing wrong with wanting to cut down on pollution, but it needs to be packaged in some more down to Earth manner.

Geolosts know this. They kind of look at the planet as a living mechanism unto itself. Plate tectonics, polarity, the forces that create weather, etc all all understood.

If we set off alll the nuclear bombs in existance, it would be bad news for the human race, but it is thought that on geologic terms (let's say 25,0000 years) that the planet would take this in stride, kind of like the meteoroid impact that is thought to have occured and wiped out the dinosaurs.

So really the question is: If we are in one of the planets' normal warming cycles, would the addition of man-made warming tip the scales to some cataclysmic level?

It might, and it would be good to say it that way. Keep it real and less dramatic.

No matter the case, it's wise to husband the environment we live in so that it can stay useful for the longest period of time. That stands to be true even if there is no crisis, but it's far more boring and no one's going to win awards for it.

It's my observation that an overstated case gets rejected by many people, but it also excites many others. However, neither group will do anything, but the excited group will want to hear more, and that's where profit comes in.

No, "where profit comes in" are the record profits from the oil companies, the same oil companies who are major funders of the "debunkers".

Scenario: man smoke two packs of cigarettes for 40 years. He develops lung cancer which eventually kills him.

Conclusion: the years of smoking most likely caused him to contract cancer. Sure, there could have been other mitigating factors such as environment, exposure to other airborne hazards and sometimes even non-smokers develop lung cancer. BUT, you'd be an idiot to conclude that smoking wasn't the main reason for the man's ultimate demise.

It could be an astonishing coincidence that temperatures started rising as the amount of greenhouse gases being poured into the atmosphere increased dramatically, but to believe that you're either an idiot or get your "science" from some a.m. radio shlock-jock.

Happy Holidays.

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Pablo Picasso (1881–1973)

Many of those who claim Manhattan and Florida will be submerged in my lifetime have no agenda? None? Zero? Not one person on the WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! side have any agenda regarding power, or control, or money, or vanity? None of them?

Your scenario has many holes in it. Mainly that we can predict that a man who smokes his whole life has a very high probability of attaining cancer. We know this from history.

History tells us that we can not predict future weather patterns with anything close to reliability. We also can not determind if the Sun is simply burning hotter now---but this theory is much more plausible then we puny creatures having any significant effect on this planet and the unfathomably huge ball of fury that heats it.

Sorry, but this is a simple case of econuts trying to use scare tactics to encourage people to turn over control of their lives.

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Your explanation does not explain other spikes in temp during even recorded history.

Your smoking analogy is invalid due to the false comparison between the human body and a planet.

Selling "doom" is an industry which is far older than the oil industry and much much less productive. Much like politics and religion, of which it's a relative, it's a game for people how don't know how to do anything productive, but yet want to make a lot of money and have power.