http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7095209.stm

Notice how the General is cagey about mentioning who is murdering Iraqui Shiia women for wearing western clothes. Its because some of them are militia members that are also members of his own forces. They are Saaderist factions who are part of the Mailiki government.

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Barack Obama on security, Iraq and Afghanistan. We need a Commander in Chief who knows the differences between Shii'a and Sunni.

we should bomb the whole country and jst start over

Yeah that would play real well on Al Jazeera TV. Also it makes getting their oil a tad difficult.

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Barack Obama on security, Iraq and Afghanistan. We need a Commander in Chief who knows the differences between Shii'a and Sunni.

who cares what al jazeers thinks? you want to bsae our policy off what the terrorists want?

You have one of the most poorly organized minds on the board.

We, aren't causing what's reported to happen. Rather, it's the natives reverting back to type. The people who live in that, and many other, countries are modern day savages who cannot control their impulses. I'm sure that our forces are attempting to instruct them in rational behavior, which is likely harder than rocket science.

Al Jazeera is not exactly the terrorists. They are the Fox News of the Islamic world. Caring what they think has everything to do with how successful the actual terrorists are at recruiting from the 1/4 of the worlds population who share the Islamic faith.

Are you not familiar with the phrase about keeping your friends close and enemies closer? Invading countries that have nothing to do with the people who actually attacked us, inflicting chaos and suffering through our inability to actually controll the situation we unleashed - its the biggest propaganda gift we could have given to Al Queda.

Back to Basra, I will remind everyone that Gen. Patreus referred to the intra-Shiia violence in Basra similar to that in the story above as "Iraqui solutions to Iraqui problems" indicating he was fine with it.

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Barack Obama on security, Iraq and Afghanistan. We need a Commander in Chief who knows the differences between Shii'a and Sunni.

No we said went there to bring democracy and the Shiia majority democratically support moving closer to an Iran style religious state - thats how they vote, thats what they want to fight for. Basra is what a succesful, post-invasion Iraq is what our planners say Iraq will look like. By invading and disturbing the balance of power that existed we made ourselves responsible for the current state of things there in the population's mind.

Armies are for fighting, you are really quite clueless if you think our forces are there to quietly "instruct them in rational behavior". We would need to increase our forces there 20-fold to actually attempt that and I still doubt it would work.

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Barack Obama on security, Iraq and Afghanistan. We need a Commander in Chief who knows the differences between Shii'a and Sunni.

Not quite, seand:
"Interestingly, there have been deals there recently and the violence level has just flat plummeted. For the Shia south, that's probably OK. These are Iraq solutions for Iraqi problems." - Sept. 11, 2007.
He's clearly talking about political solutions, but instead, you quote him completely out of context and say he's supporting violence.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you resort to distortions such as these? Never mind you have no problem slandering a man who's dedicated more than 30 years of his life to defending ingrates like yourself.

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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? - Psalm 27:1

PAtreus was responding to a question about high profile executions of several regional governors in the Shiia south and his answer was in a sense saying "I don't think the US has a dog in the militia's murdering each other's leaders as long as the overall level of violence is going down. I don't think we should get involved." He wasn't condoning the violence but basically saying that there is nothing we can do about it, that a few politcal assasinations were about par for the course. Clearly the same Shiia militia factions conducting those executions are the same ones attacking women for wearing western style clothes.

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Barack Obama on security, Iraq and Afghanistan. We need a Commander in Chief who knows the differences between Shii'a and Sunni.

i dont think we should let our enemies or terrorists dictate what we do. then they know we're scared of them and we already lost