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Old 11-27-2007, 12:25 AM
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I assume you're talking about American Mfgs. like Mattel (although I don't know specifically that they do it), I agree, that's pretty much a given.
Since we're going to be hard pressed to change this internally in China, wouldn't it be nice to see a warning sticker on the products, like we have with tobacco?
"Warning: Product may have been manufactured by slave labor in a sweatshop" with a photo of a child putting stickers on a doll house with mangled hands and filthy sunken cheeks.
Look at your underwear. More than likely, you'll see on the label where it was manufactured.

Personally, I do pass up clothes manufactured in Southeast Asia, because I know it will come apart in the wash and fade unless I buy the more expensive Cheer Dark... which I ain't gunna. I'm not that gay [I buy the cheap sh**].

Mexican clothing maquiladoras have better conditions than many Southeast Asian sweatshops--and there are even MX'ans who are losing their jobs to their Asian competitors. As the product cheapens, the quality does, too.

Since nobody makes clothes in the U.S. anyway, I'm happy to buy stuff that's made in Mexico, eastern Europe and Italy. Daffy's clothes are labeled with the country the garment came from, and you're free to peek open boxes to scan the label. I do it before I'm about to shell $20-$60 on something.



Do the math.

For a $30 pant, the laborer who made the pant earned somewhere between 40-cents to a dollar.

The export shippers, customs and excise add about another 75-cents to the pant.

The rest of the price of the garment is income for the manufacturer and for the store selling the garment.



What's better? When you see something at Bloomingdale's, chances are you can find the EXACT same garment at Century21 in NYC or here at Daffy's for 90% off.

I hate the whole designer jean industry. The clothiers are literally minting money with each new jean--and the price of wages barely moves.

As the dollar drops like a rock though, China is going to feel some pain. They can't export fast enough to keep up with the devaluation of the dollar (which also drops the yuan since the currencies are virtually pegged).

The Chinese are not immune to energy prices. They are already having gasoline shortages throughout the country. Maybe the economic rubber band will bounce back in the other direction sooner than later.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:30 PM
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China is not trying to kill us, the 'globalists' are...China has tried to modernize, improving the stands of living for it's people...but, in order to build it's economy, it has required foreign investment...this
investment is good to a degree, but, from the 'globalist' viewpoint,
the idea is to extract maximum profit/usury from this investment...
this viewpoint can be in conflict with what is best for the Chinese
people & what their government considers important...you must look at the bigger picture.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:34 PM
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China is not trying to kill us, the 'globalists' are...China has tried to modernize, improving the stands of living for it's people...but, in order to build it's economy, it has required foreign investment...this
investment is good to a degree, but, from the 'globalist' viewpoint,
the idea is to extract maximum profit/usury from this investment...
this viewpoint can be in conflict with what is best for the Chinese
people & what their government considers important...you must look at the bigger picture.
Are the globalists related to these guys?


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Old 11-29-2007, 01:54 AM
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Indeed, this has nothing to do with China.
Before it was China, we were all scared of Japan.

Remember them buying what became Sony Pictures, the Waldorf Astoria (or was it the Plaza in NYC?), and Pebble Beach?

Everyone was panicking...

I don't think anyone's losing sleep anymore about the Japanese. Their economy hasn't really grown much since 1991.

Now we're scared of China. Same crap, new era. China's not dumping cheap goods, we're ordering it from them. They're not inspecting the factories since the purchasers are not forcing those inspections.

It's a cycle. Everyone blames everyone else. I've been to China a few times, been in schools, factories and office buildings. They're no different; they want new apartments, Audi's and good educations for their kids. Even the poor from the outer provinces want the same things. It's the "New Dream" in China.

Instead of New York being the land of opportunity for Europeans in the early 20th century, it's Shenzhen for the Chinese, the gritty boomtown next to Hong Kong that had a population of just 30k people in 1980, estimated now to be upwards of 5 million, just blending into one of the world's largest urban conglomerations with Guangzhou, another southern boomtown, Hong Kong, Macau (the former Portuguese territory and gambling mecca) and Zhuhai on the border with Macau.

China's on a warpath, not of destruction of enemy tribes but in economic development. Sure, they're going about it wrong; the economy is soaring but there are no more birds in the sky as most of the trees were cut down during China's anarchic cultural revolution and Great Leap Forward. What birds were left are culled due to the bird flu. Corruption is rampant, workers rights are horrible and the air is atrocious.

The problem is, this was the US in 1900. It really was no different. US manufactuers were kicking out inferior products. Rats stuffed into sausages, rotten eggs sold as honey. It's not new to the US, however it new to us in the 21st century.

Problem is if we lock out China, the situation will only get worse. Vendors/retailers need to enforce basic worker's rights that really are enshrined in Chinese labor laws but are blatantly ignored. They need to ensure that the materials used aren't loaded with lead or can morph into a date rape drug.

They really need to bear some responsibility too.

China's awesome.. got some of the craziest nightclubs and cities on the face of the earth. Sitting in a restaurant in Shanghai, viewing both sides of the Pudong river is one of my fondest memories with their towers to commerce and industry, the Jin Mao tower and the Pearl of the Orient TV tower to the left and the Four Seasons, the Bund and the Westin on the right... Sitting in the VIP area of a nightclub in Beijing just drinking and watching the people below, really no different than you or I.... racing through the streets of Shenzhen in my friend's cousin's $50k BMW, a car that I can't afford. It's an exciting place to be, despite what it seems like on TV.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:02 AM
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...yeah your basically right...China has one of the worst human rights records out there, so its trying to make up for it by doing one of the few proven things that can be done---more jobs for everyone. Guess what? Its working. considering how many people live in China its reall quite amazing how much they have advanced---but still have a long way to go IMO.

Any realist would believe that China is becoming too powerful and fear for theselves. Build a Maginot Line and prepare for battle...and a lot of the world still believes China's a threat.

Now about that Maginot Line...(I love a good France reference)

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China is not trying to kill us, the 'globalists' are...China has tried to modernize, improving the stands of living for it's people...but, in order to build it's economy, it has required foreign investment...this
investment is good to a degree, but, from the 'globalist' viewpoint,
the idea is to extract maximum profit/usury from this investment...
this viewpoint can be in conflict with what is best for the Chinese
people & what their government considers important...you must look at the bigger picture.
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:33 PM
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Stop complaining about China, and start complaining about what the US is doing in Iraq and what the Israelis are doing in Palestine,
every day...China doesn't have to try and kill us: we are doing a good job ourselves, with our ignorance of history, the degeneracy of our 'leaders'...and, of course, the American public is an accomplice in this suicide.
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