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Old 10-31-2007, 11:13 PM
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An interesting article about our 'oil policy' vis-a-vis Iraq:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/ope...overt_atte.htm
frankly, such a partisan and unfair law has no business on the benchmark listings. we need to let them deal out their primary source of income on their own terms.

funnily enough, it does support the conclusion about the war that most of us who opposed the war from the beginning have thought.
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Some further insight into who is profitting from the Iraq war:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020201

Israel is real beneficiary of Iraq oil
Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:31:00

The Zionist regime is profiting from Iraq's oil which is being exploited by US occupiers, an official from Iraqi oil ministry has said.

Following the US and UK invasion of Iraq 57 months ago, the Zionist regime has been the real beneficiary and acquires 40 percent of its required oil from Iraq, he said on condition of anonymity.

The Iraqi official stressed that the crude oil from al-Romayla oilfield in southern Iraq, which is under US forces' control, is transferred through pipelines to Kuwaiti oil terminals and then redirected to Israel.

Since the beginning of 2007, about 32 oil tankers, mostly Dutch, have carried oil from al-Omayya in northwest of the Persian Gulf to the Zionist regime, he noted.

The amount of oil volume which is exported from Iraq is above the announced figure of 2.5 million barrels a day, the official told the Fars News Agency.

There are 16 officials and tens of oil experts from Israel who hold US passports and are active in oil deals in Iraq, he concluded.

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Some further insight into who is profitting from the Iraq war:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020201

Israel is real beneficiary of Iraq oil
Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:31:00

The Zionist regime is profiting from Iraq's oil which is being exploited by US occupiers, an official from Iraqi oil ministry has said.

Following the US and UK invasion of Iraq 57 months ago, the Zionist regime has been the real beneficiary and acquires 40 percent of its required oil from Iraq, he said on condition of anonymity.

The Iraqi official stressed that the crude oil from al-Romayla oilfield in southern Iraq, which is under US forces' control, is transferred through pipelines to Kuwaiti oil terminals and then redirected to Israel.

Since the beginning of 2007, about 32 oil tankers, mostly Dutch, have carried oil from al-Omayya in northwest of the Persian Gulf to the Zionist regime, he noted.

The amount of oil volume which is exported from Iraq is above the announced figure of 2.5 million barrels a day, the official told the Fars News Agency.

There are 16 officials and tens of oil experts from Israel who hold US passports and are active in oil deals in Iraq, he concluded.
Frank, did you realize that this was an Iranian news network before you posted?

Usually, if a paper has the gall to use the words "the Zionist regime" in the subhead, something's wrong.
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While we are at it how about this from Iraq:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/...s-defeated.htm

Iraqis have turned strongly against Al Qaeda, and that is a very good thing.
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"Yeah, Al Queda in Iraq is waning in popularity. Now us (Sunnis / Shi'ias) can really get down to business ethnically cleansing those (Shi'ia / Sunnis)". Good times.

So out of curiosity what do pro-war folks make of Turkey maybe invading and destabilizing the one succesful, stable part of Iraq, the Kurdish North? The Turks have been attacked on thier own land by terrorists. Doesn't that justify unilateral action on their part, like it did for us?
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Iraqis have turned strongly against Al Qaeda, and that is a very good thing.
This presumes that Al Qaeda was previously popular in Iraq, a mostly secular country with about as much natural taste for fundamentalism as...well, as the United States. It was never more than a comparatively small number of whack-jobs -- though it is in the interest of the Bush regime to pretend otherwise.
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This presumes that Al Qaeda was previously popular in Iraq, a mostly secular country with about as much natural taste for fundamentalism as...well, as the United States. It was never more than a comparatively small number of whack-jobs -- though it is in the interest of the Bush regime to pretend otherwise.
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While we are at it how about this from Iraq:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/...s-defeated.htm

Iraqis have turned strongly against Al Qaeda, and that is a very good thing.

Meh.

I've stopped caring about the Iraq war.

So what? The President and Congress are determined to spend all of my money over there as it is, let oil prices scream through the roof, and this will be the second U.S. war which actually causes a severe recession instead of boosting the economy.

Once the President gives up, and all those men and women return home, they will come back home to find few jobs waiting for them because inflation pressure and a devalued dollar have put favor onto a U.S. export market which is rather small [the US doesn't export that many goods as it used to!].

And I won't care much about that problem, either.

The President wanted this war so bad, and so did Congress, including Hillary.
  • Every day that the intrinsic value of oil goes up, and our demand for it barely declines--sending more of our wealth to the Gulf, the terrorists are winning.
  • Every day that the dollar declines in value to record levels, the terrorists are winning.
  • Every time that Congress has to pass a special bill to raise the debt ceiling, the terrorists are winning.
  • Every day that inflation increases, and Fed. rate cuts only stimulate the stock market for a few hours before declining again... the terrorists are winning.
Right now, it costs almost $1.50 to buy just one euro.


I really don't think any of this is going to sink in to people in America until a while after Bush is gone, and the next President, whoever that is... inherits the stinking turd that is festering in the closet.
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It is not a war, it was a planned invasion and take over of a country for oil and to get a foot hold in the middle east.
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Frank, did you realize that this was an Iranian news network before you posted?

Usually, if a paper has the gall to use the words "the Zionist regime" in the subhead, something's wrong.
I was aware of the source, and sometimes it takes gall to get the truth out...Iran is the next door neighbor of Iraq...they certainly have a good pipeline as to what's going on in their neighboring country...do you think the American media has been telling us the truth about what has been going on in Iraq?...there's an old saying:
'The first casualty of war is the truth'...unless you have different information sources, it is impossible to make a judgement on what the reality really is...it has long been known that the Israelis have been operating in Iraq, for a variety of purposes...You know, we have had this big 'scandal' about the actions of the Blackwater mercenaries and their actions in Iraq...well, there are also many Israeli/Zionist owned mercenary companies in Iraq also...companies like CACI, Zapata and others...do some research on this...in addition, somewhat paradoxically considering the drums beating for
an attack on Iran, did you know that Iran was a major supplier of oil to Israel, when Iran was under the Shah?...this was done very quietly, through the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas on the Gulf, to the Israeli port of Eilat...these shipments stopped when Khomeini
& the Muslims took over...Israel has no oil resources of it's own, and
does not want/or can't pay market prices for oil...it all makes a lot of sense...previously, I posted an article about the Bush/Globalist
plan for Iraqi oil...by tying these two articles together, one gets a clearer perspective on what is happening...and what is happening is the destruction of the Iraqi people/nation and the wholescale plundering of their most important resource:oil....how does all of this benefit Americans?...are our oil prices going down or do you think they will go down in the near future?...we have two HUGE undeveloped oil fields right next to Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, with a combined estimated reserve larger than
everything in Saudi Arabia...but these aren't being developed...why?...because oil is a monopoly, and the
boys who control it want to keep prices artificially high as long as they can...this same monopoly also
blocks the implementation of newer technologies for power, because they intend to bleed us dry.

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