Global Warming? Ask Someone in Argentina - Page 2 - PhillyBlog

Swinefeld · #11 (**permalink**) 07-11-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Grappler

First snowfall since 1918. It would so that's outrageously so.

For every instance of extreme cold in the world, there are perhaps thousands of instances of extreme heat. Funny how the wingnuts pick up one little story about a cold snap in Argentina in order to disprove Global Climate Change. Now that's fairness.

eldondre · #12 (**permalink**) 07-11-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Grappler

First snowfall since 1918. It would so that's outrageously so.

huh? 89 years is outrageous? 89 years is nothing. Is it outrageous every time we see Haley's comet every 76 years? It's mankind's ability to grasp geologic time that's outrageous. (myself included...like our national debt, these numbers are so big they become meaningless to us)Global Warming and Global Cooling have happened before, and there's growing evidence that they happened relatively quickly. I remember watching a show on the canyons in the west. The current theory is that it was created in a very short period of time. Perhaps a number of hours, created when frozen lakes (think dams of ice) melted and caused bodies of water the size of seas (filled with ice chunks) to rush down the landscape.

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DNA extracted from ice cores shows that moths and butterflies were living in forests of spruce and pine in the area between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago. ..
"We have shown for the first time that southern Greenland, which is currently hidden under more than 2km of ice, was once very different to the Greenland we see today," said Professor Eske Willerslev from the University of Copenhagen, Denmark, and one of the authors of the paper.
"What we've learned is that this part of the world was significantly warmer than most people thought," added Professor Martin Sharp from the University of Alberta, Canada, and a co-author of the Science paper...Studies suggest that even during the last interglacial (116,000-130,000 years ago), when temperatures were thought to be 5C warmer than today, the ice persevered, keeping the delicate samples entombed and free from contamination and decay.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6276576.stm

#13 (**permalink**) 07-11-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eldondre

huh? 89 years is outrageous? 89 years is nothing. Is it outrageous every time we see Haley's comet every 76 years? It's mankind's ability to grasp geologic time that's outrageous. (myself included...like our national debt, these numbers are so big they become meaningless to us)Global Warming and Global Cooling have happened before, and there's growing evidence that they happened relatively quickly. I remember watching a show on the canyons in the west. The current theory is that it was created in a very short period of time. Perhaps a number of hours, created when frozen lakes (think dams of ice) melted and caused bodies of water the size of seas (filled with ice chunks) to rush down the landscape.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6276576.stm

What you're saying makes much more logical sense than the standard media's take on the issue.

ddelorenzo · #14 (**permalink**) 07-11-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eldondre

I remember watching a show on the canyons in the west. The current theory is that it was created in a very short period of time. Perhaps a number of hours, created when frozen lakes (think dams of ice) melted and caused bodies of water the size of seas (filled with ice chunks) to rush down the landscape.

That probably refers to glacial lake Missoula and the Scablands of eastern Washington. It's a really cool story. As far as I know, most of the other western canyons are still presumed to have been dug out over millions of years.

iandade01 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-12-2007, 09:39 PM

I cant believe what I am reading!!!!! People are not arguing the mainstream media side of this. I have posted on global warming and have been called an idiot for not believing we are all doomed.

I am gonna sit back and wait for the eco-freaks to come out on this one.

#16 (**permalink**) 07-12-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by iandade01

I cant believe what I am reading!!!!! People are not arguing the mainstream media side of this. I have posted on global warming and have been called an idiot for not believing we are all doomed.

I am gonna sit back and wait for the eco-freaks to come out on this one.

We have quite a unique collection of people here.

eldondre · #17 (**permalink**) 07-12-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ddelorenzo

That probably refers to glacial lake Missoula and the Scablands of eastern Washington. It's a really cool story. As far as I know, most of the other western canyons are still presumed to have been dug out over millions of years.

yes, that's it. although the special left you thinking that it's possible others were also created this way. wow!

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It is estimated that the maximum rate of flow was equal to 9.46 cubic miles per hour (386 million cubic feet per second). This rate is 60 times the flow of the Amazon River, the largest river in the world today.

as someone commented after the tsunami, one thing we know is that there will be natural disasters from time to time where enormous amounts of people die. the term "naural disaster" itself contains human bias. it's really a natural occurrence and a human disaster.