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Old 07-03-2007, 01:23 PM
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TheMidwest, you write very well, clear and proper sentences- kudos dude. (The bigger compliment is that I wrote in first person and not like a cave-man.)
And cheers to you, friend. I honestly and sincerely appreciate that - I was feeling more than a bit self-concious yesterday, after being admonished on my writing style. ln years past, I was the editor of my school paper, and I worried that I might be getting a bit rusty

I've got a technical question, too, for all involved - more than a few people have used the term "troll." I haven't seen it used in blogs before I visited these pages. Without making any accusations myself - I'm interested in its definition as it relates to Phillyblog. Any help?
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:29 PM
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And cheers to you, friend. I honestly and sincerely appreciate that - I was feeling more than a bit self-concious yesterday, after being admonished on my writing style. ln years past, I was the editor of my school paper, and I worried that I might be getting a bit rusty

I've got a technical question, too, for all involved - more than a few people have used the term "troll." I haven't seen it used in blogs before I visited these pages. Without making any accusations myself - I'm interested in its definition as it relates to Phillyblog. Any help?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Basically, someone who's only posting to rile people up without adding any pertinent facts or useful discourse to the conversation. Usually they have to be deliberately stirring the pot, rather than just holding a view that no one else agrees with, so it's hard to tell without being inside of Alderian's head what exactly his motivations are and if he really believes all the stuff he says... but I think he's trolling.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:18 PM
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Truth be told, I think TheAdlerian is a bum. But aside from that, your conversation wasn't wasted because I enjoyed the things you had to say. I'm not a social scientist, philosopher, or anything of the sort- I do have deep thoughts on comic books and modern stories being mythology (transformers per se, doctor who, etc.). But yeah- not wasted convo, even if I have TheAdlerian blocked, so I avoid most of his posts (when someone quotes him, I can see what he wrote, but usually skip over it anyway), I'd much rather read a one-sided convo between yourself and yourself TheMidWest.

Cheers,
TheMidwest, you write very well, clear and proper sentences- kudos dude. (The bigger compliment is that I wrote in first person and not like a cave-man.)
You sound like the kind of open-minded person that ought to be listened to closely.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:31 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Basically, someone who's only posting to rile people up without adding any pertinent facts or useful discourse to the conversation. Usually they have to be deliberately stirring the pot, rather than just holding a view that no one else agrees with, so it's hard to tell without being inside of Alderian's head what exactly his motivations are and if he really believes all the stuff he says... but I think he's trolling.
One might ask just why people get so upset?

I like to think it's because most of us are trapped in a capitalist system that makes us, as Ice T said, either Pimps or Whores. You're either some sucker who will never get out of debt or so greedy that you'd cheat your gramma for a nickel.

Meanwhile, people in other countries are trying to change things and make a better life before they die pointlessly, just like everyone else. They must be evil though, because if you actually thought about what a hell you're living in, well...you might get sad. They're evil and stupid and up to something that's what's up behind that "stopping man's inhumanity to man" shiznit, right?

It's far more natural to be dominated by a bunch of "alphas" like the giant hairless monkeys that we are. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

It is broke though, no bankrupt.

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I doubt that I would have touched such a nerve if I said that we should return to a monarchy. That would have been silly.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:56 PM
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One might ask just why people get so upset?

I like to think it's because most of us are trapped in a capitalist system that makes us, as Ice T said, either Pimps or Whores. You're either some sucker who will never get out of debt or so greedy that you'd cheat your gramma for a nickel.

Meanwhile, people in other countries are trying to change things and make a better life before they die pointlessly, just like everyone else. They must be evil though, because if you actually thought about what a hell you're living in, well...you might get sad. They're evil and stupid and up to something that's what's up behind that "stopping man's inhumanity to man" shiznit, right?

It's far more natural to be dominated by a bunch of "alphas" like the giant hairless monkeys that we are. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

It is broke though, no bankrupt.

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I doubt that I would have touched such a nerve if I said that we should return to a monarchy. That would have been silly.
another worthless post. nobody's upset, just frustrated talking to someone whose posts are grounded in gelatin. Happy fourth. keep dreaming of those perfect other countries where people are trying to change the world.
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One might ask just why people get so upset?
I'm not upset, because I know better than to care. People who get upset are the people who came into this assuming it was a reasonable discussion where the points they made wouldn't be simply ignored.

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I'd rather be here. You can move to China, or Venezuala, or join a commune, if you want. The commune is probably your best choice. That's the only scale anything resembling communism could ever work under, unless you spliced the DNA of humans and ants. Also, you might not have internet access.

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, as Ice T said, either Pimps or Whores.
Irrelevant quote that has nothing to do with anything.

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You're either some sucker who will never get out of debt or so greedy that you'd cheat your gramma for a nickel.
False dichotomy, also blatent mistruth.

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Meanwhile, people in other countries are trying to change things and make a better life before they die pointlessly, just like everyone else. They must be evil though, because if you actually thought about what a hell you're living in, well...you might get sad.They're evil and stupid and up to something that's what's up behind that "stopping man's inhumanity to man" shiznit, right?
Vacuous statements, with a small helping of strawman.

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It's far more natural to be dominated by a bunch of "alphas" like the giant hairless monkeys that we are. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

It is broke though, no bankrupt.
More of the same.

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I doubt that I would have touched such a nerve if I said that we should return to a monarchy. That would have been silly.
Baseless claim. Actually, if you had said that we should go back to a monarchy under "King George", who knows who it would have pulled into an argument?
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:59 PM
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more to the point, what you stir up are whether you are a troll or serious. As far as i can tell, you are an intelligent fellow who is one of the following:
1) a troll
2) a smart man with dumb ideas
3) so blinded by your one dimensional view that all other views melt together, and people's lives that are not devoted to your cause are worthless...much as a young Stalin, Lenin, Mao, or Hitler might think. Hell, even a Che Guevara who murdered relatively few people compared to the "greats."
the third could conceivably stir people up.
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Honestly, it really isn't just a river in Egypt.


Sig, this time, I guess I'll have to believe you over Adler.

Good luck with your nonsense, fellas!
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