I have heard that the " elected " leader of Iran has said he wants to " WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP".
He seems to be doing every thing he can to get his face in the news .
I wonder if it is all like a Hollywood stunt on his part to get us all worked up and offer him money and more aid ?
So far he has not done anything that I know of but shoot off his mouth.
If we condem him for saying he wants to wipe Israel off the map what would we do if he DID wipe it off ?
This brings me to the question that if a person is wrong for saying things like that , how bad are they if the actualy do it.
I have some old maps of the Middle East from 1940. If you can find one take a look at it . It shows an area called Palistine . A few years later the maps of the area do not show a place called Pallistine but now they show a place called Israel . Israel wiped Palistine off the map is that OK?
If so why ?
Lets just see how freedom of speech works and see how long this post lasts before it is cut off. I have not said anything wrong it is all a historical fact . Plus speaking out against a political manuver is not condeming a religion . This is not anti semetic in any way it is just a fact open for debate about polictics.Please dont try to make it a religious issue, it is not. It may help us to understand just why some people dont like us .
Trust me they are not upset with us because we have nice cars and big screen TV's

Consider this.

Since this is a problem originating with Palistine why is it ok for so many other country's surrounding Israel to attack them over the last 40 or so years, if when the U.S. steps in its so wrong?

Is it OK for the Arab/Muslim nations to show hatred towards Israel?

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I am not sure I follow the first part of your reply but as to the second part they all see Israel as a thorn in their side that was placed there with our help. Where did all the former residents of Pallistine go?
Try and look at it like this .
Imagine some country that we dont like a whloe lot like say , France became a super power and they came here and thought the way we treated the native Americans was wrong , and it was . Any way lets say they told everyone in Pennsylvania that they had to leave there home and only take what you can carry . Then moved us all out to the dust bowl area of Kansas . Then gave your home to the native Americans and they changed the name of Penna to some native American name.
Then gave the Indians tanks and planes and guns to shoot you if you tried to go home.
Would you be upset with France and the new state of Pocahantisville ?
would other states worry that they were next . Then how about Pocahantisvill dams up the Delaware river and starves any one down stream or starts building " settelments" in New York and if the people in New York protest they kill them and France looks the other way while they do it.
Dont be afraid to ask questions . this is sort of what happened over there . Check it out for yourself. The sad part is there is no way to fix it .

Let's look at the situation. A genocide was greatly exaggerated to create sympathy for a race of people who have been kicked all over the planet throughout their history because they are like the cousins who are invited to stay for a couple weeks until they get on their feet and end up staying and never leaving; thus a reason to create Israel.

I could pull up a list of all the countries Jews have been expelled from over the history, most recently in Germany. The USA is the only country they've never been expelled from. Iran has never said they would wipe Israel off the map, Iran said Israel would implode from within just like the Soviet Union did and since most in America can't even speak English, we rely on the media that sold us on WMD.

The fact of the matter is that Israel is the threat to peace in the Middle East, invading their neighbors, kidnapping their enemies, and running human sex slave rings in their country. The fact is Iran is NOT a threat ot the middle east, but our brainwashing FCC controlled media is making us believe they are a threat because we want their oil. It's the history of one, stolen everything they have.

Im not sure if you are pulling my leg or not but you are right a lot of the problems over there stem from the creation of Isreal for sure .
Let me take that back , it's not so much that the state of Isreal was created but HOW it was created .
Jews have lived there for thousands of years . They lived mixed in with the other people there until after WW2. Then many more moved there fleeing Germany ect. Things got fairly heated with all the new imigrants and problems broke out . The US and England come up with a brainstorm to arm the Jewish population in what was becoming a civil war and backed them no matter what. Like I said in another post , the Arabs dont hate us because we have nice cars and flat screen TVs , They hate us because we messed up their country with our tinkering .
I guess the powers at the time could not have forseen the long term effects .
The problem now is what to do . Give Palistine back , you know that wont happen. Allow Palistinians to move back into some of their homes ?
Allow them to live there and vote? They say Isreal is a democracy but if you are not Jewish you cant run for office.
Can you imagine if you were told no Baptists could run for US president or no Blacks could run for any office ,,,boy there would be a scream let out you would hear around the world.
Sex slaves ? Every country has them .
Invadeing their neighbors ? They are not invadeing them , just building "settlements " .

David Ben Gurion (first isreali prime minister)" If I were an arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Isreal. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true god promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our god is not theirs. There has been anti-semitism, the nazis, hitler, auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that"?

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Israelis have been in conflict so to speak since biblical times...the map of the middle east has always shifted...parts of it were even within the Hellenic Empire during Alexander the great...but in fact both the Israelis and the Palestinians are from that region...and both are claiming it. It is not like the American Indians and the English...obviously only the Indians were native to this land..

As far as genocide goes...genocide should never be considered to be an exaggeration...Jews are not the only people in the history of the world to have had a genocide...it is b/c of the exposure to such a degree of what actually occurred to the Jews that people have sympathized to their cause...but the genocide of Armenians for instance is not any less despicable...it is only less known...and what we don't know, we don't sympathize with. And that is the actual issue.

WTF???? A genocide was "greatly exaggerated"??? Unless I'm reading what you said incorrectly you're denying the extent of the Holocaust, and that is WRONG.

Same reaction regarding Israel "running human sex slave rings in their country". Huh?????

Israel did NOT wipe Palestine off the map. In 1948 the whole land of Palestine was partitioned into Israel and Palestine (generally, the West Bank). When Israel was created all people living in it's territory, Arab and Jewish, were offered full citizenship. A lot of Palestinians voluntarily left Israel since they were promised by neighboring Arab countries that Israel would never survive the War of Independence. They were mistaken. On the other hand, Arabs who stayed behind have gotten Israeli citizenship, have their own political parties and members of Israeli parliament, etc. I'll admit that Israel's treatment of its Arab citizens is not ideal, but it's still way better than how Palestinians are treated in Arab countries. Oh yeah, and let's not forget about the mass expulsions and mistreatments of Jews in other Arab countries in the late '40's and early '50's.

The other neighboring countries do not give a crap about Palestinians. All those Palestinians who left Israel for Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon in 1948, and their decendents, have been living in refugee camps ever since. Has Egypt or Saudi Arabia ever offered them citizenship? Nope. Because now the plight of the Palestinian people is just a tool in their real goal, which is to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees

And you are flat-out wrong when you say that President Ahmadinejad never said he "wanted to wipe Israel off the map". Yes, he did say exactly that. Add to the fact that he is actively supporting the Iraqi insurgency and trying to get nuclear weapons, and he makes Iran far and away the most dangerous threat to security in the Middle East.

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Before this thread gets shut down I would like to say one thing .
I in no way at all condone terrorists . It is stupid and the wrong way to solve anything.
Hitler found out that trying to terrorize England with the V2s and bombing London did not work all it did was harden the Brits against him.
The people that flew planes into the Trade center pissed us off and brought down hell fire on their kind in their back yard.
The terrorists that blow up people in Israel just make the Jews and the rest of the world hate them even more.
If the Arabs had any sense at all they would spend their money in Hollywood and make movies pushing there views. After all Americans bielve every thing they see on the screen , look how many people saw the fictional documentery by Michale Moore and thought it was real.
All you need is a few Hollywierd folks behind you and your in.
Look at the animal that killed Dan Faulkner in cold blood in Phila.
The hollywierd Suzan Serandan typs running around trying to have him made into a saint.

Could you pleas tell me where I can get a new map that shows that there still is a country called Palistine ? Just to prove your point .