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Old 03-31-2008, 09:24 PM
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Splendid shots! That dust cloud really was unbelievable when it came at us...
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The government will build new houses and then the same people that trashed Mantua hall will trash the new houses.
Nope. The new housing the PHA has constructed falls under Section 8, which means the tenants are renters, rather than getting something for free. It also means there's a zero-tolerance policy for renters.

As I said above, I lived near the Southwark Towers site shortly after the townhouses there were finished and the neighborhood improved greatly in just a couple years.

There's been the same sort of PHA townhouses at 40th & Market since the mid-80's and they've had no negative effect on the neighborhood.
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This is a remarkable thing to experience. I mentioned to Parkview earlier that I didn't even know there was an implosion until I found myself watching it live on the news. It took a full 30 seconds for the sound to reach my house near 53rd and Baltimore. That's some crazy sh*t!
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There's been the same sort of PHA townhouses at 40th & Market since the mid-80's and they've had no negative effect on the neighborhood.
except for some drug dealing and an occasional "bullet riddled body" at 39th & Market. Not sure if the above-average robbery rate at 39th & Chestnut is related.

I agree that's better than Mantua Hall, though.
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Nope. The new housing the PHA has constructed falls under Section 8, which means the tenants are renters, rather than getting something for free. It also means there's a zero-tolerance policy for renters.

As I said above, I lived near the Southwark Towers site shortly after the townhouses there were finished and the neighborhood improved greatly in just a couple years.

There's been the same sort of PHA townhouses at 40th & Market since the mid-80's and they've had no negative effect on the neighborhood.

Who can argue with the "great" success of the PHA and Section 8 housing.

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/fis...neighbors.html
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Who can argue with the "great" success of the PHA and Section 8 housing.

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/fis...neighbors.html
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I live on a otherwise quiet and well kept Port Richmond block, except for my neighbors who are renting a section 8 property. The people are loud and dirty, leaving their cigarette butts all over my sidewalk, along with ashes and other trash. Their backyard is nothing more than overgrown weeds. They will congregate on my front step at midnight and give me a funny look when I open the door to see what the noise is at such a late hour. There are often visitors to their house, and they like to smoke and talk on my front step, or lean on the cars parked in front of the house.
Call me crazy, but I'd rather put up with living next to someone who behaved like (and I did have a neighbor much like that, though she wasn't Section 8) that then someone that was out to mug me every time I left my house.

If that's the worst you can offer, you can hardly call Section 8 a failure.
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