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Old 04-21-2008, 01:29 AM
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Default What drives Philadelphia sports fans to be so hostile?

On my way back to the seat from the restroom at the Phillies-Mets game today, I saw a couple donned in Mets apparel being harassed by Phillies faithful. Upon telling them to leave the Mets fans alone, they turned their anger towards me. (For the record, I was wearing a Phillies cap.) Fortunately, I was on my way back towards my seat so I did not have to endure their taunts for long. Apparently Phillies fans who stand up for Mets fans are no better than Mets fans themselves in the eyes of Philadelphia.

This is not, of course, the first time I have experienced such hostility coming from Philadelphia sports fans, but it got me wondering why they feel a necessity to be this way. Though I am (and have long been) a Phillies fan, I have a lot of respect for our biggest division rivals (as well as any other opposing team) and see no absolutely no problem with their fans showing their support. Why am I in the minority?
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:33 AM
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On my way back to the seat from the restroom at the Phillies-Mets game today, I saw a couple donned in Mets apparel being harassed by Phillies faithful. Upon telling them to leave the Mets fans alone, they turned their anger towards me. (For the record, I was wearing a Phillies cap.) Fortunately, I was on my way back towards my seat so I did not have to endure their taunts for long. Apparently Phillies fans who stand up for Mets fans are no better than Mets fans themselves in the eyes of Philadelphia.

This is not, of course, the first time I have experienced such hostility coming from Philadelphia sports fans, but it got me wondering why they feel a necessity to be this way. Though I am (and have long been) a Phillies fan, I have a lot of respect for our biggest division rivals (as well as any other opposing team) and see no absolutely no problem with their fans showing their support. Why am I in the minority?
The most annoying, rude, loud, combative fans are often drunk. That, coupled with the fact that security won't intervene unless there is a physical exchange makes for an abusive situation. The ushers should eject people who are clearly intoxicated and starting trouble.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:45 AM
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I was at the Phil's game last night (sunday 4/21/08) for the 8pm phillies/mets game. I noticed a lot of college aged youth there that clearly didn't know anything about baseball but just wandered around drunk yelling "METS SUCK" in everyones face that had a mets jersey on. It was pretty sad.

I've been a Phillies fan all my life and travel to Shea often to see Mets games. I am heckled there but not like what I see here. I always mess w/ Mets fans sitting near me but its always done tastefully.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:52 AM
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"What drives Philadelphia sports fans to be so hostile?"

Possibly our long and not-so-glorious recent history of painful losses, coupled with Philly often being compared unfavorably with NY in general? I don't know, just a guess. I will say, it is incredibly annoying and frustrating to go to Phillies games and be surrounded by Mets fans, especially if the Phillies aren't winning.

What's more, I'm in a mixed-team marriage...I'm a Phillies fan, he's a Mets fan. It's tough, but we make it work somehow.
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Just count your blessings it isn't as bad as the Yanks-Sox thing.

Those folks are nuts.
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Respectfully, alcohol AND testosterone. Eagles games are far worse.
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Jersey and suburban people mixed in with blue collar folk, alcohol, they don't check for flasks at the gate.

In order from the most civil to the most disobedient:

Sixers <--- most fans show up to see the opposing team play and cheer them on
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Flyers <--- like going to see a NASCAR rally
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Eagles <--- worst possible crowd, they have a jail on site just for fans



Going to the Linc is like being in a stadium with 20,000 dudes all in a pissing contest. The best way to deal with it is to get tanked up before you go to the game.
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You guys are all wrong. ESPN made fun of us so much last night it was embarrassing. Every time a "Lets go Mets" chant could be heard clearly, the commentators laughed. I don't care what you think, I don't want a NY chant in a stadium funded by OUR taxpayers for a team FUNDED by me and other fans. If you want to sit back and let them take over our stadium fine, but I will VERBALLY HARRASS THE HELL out of any Mets fans that come here. I do not want their experience to be nice and enjoyable. If I go to a game at Shea, I will not wear my teams colors and scream Phillies chants the whole time. Those chants were an ABSOLUTE INSULT TO OUR CITY!!

I will not make it Physical, but I will make it the least enjoyable experience and make them never want to come back to our stadium. If you defend them and allow them to embarrass us, you are fair game.

You will never hear a Yankees chant at a RedSox game and vice versa, if we want Met/Phillies to be the same level, we need to respect our stadium.
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Well, I hate watching games on other networks, called by announcers other than Harry. Tim McCarver, whose career was extended here in Philadelphia, thanks to Steve Carlton's insistence that no one else catch his games, can be the biggest tool of all.

Turn down the volume, and turn on the radio if you can't be there.
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