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Old 04-21-2008, 10:53 AM
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Just count your blessings it isn't as bad as the Yanks-Sox thing.

Those folks are nuts.

I think philly is much worse. boston and New york have a common respect for one another. yes there is a rivalry, but it's classy. I've been to yankee stadium in full sox gear and the worst I got was some dirty looks. At fenway, I've seen yanks and sox fans get in arguments, however the argument was intelligent to the point that if you closed your eyes you'd think you were listening to two analyists on baseball tonight.

the thing that people don't realize is if you're being loud and obnoxious you're ruining the game for fans of both teams. I want to watch the game when I go, not listen to a moron who knows little if anything about the sport being played, talk smack. I like the eagles as much as the next guy, but when you chant e-a-g-l-e-s at a phillies game, you're insulting the phillies, especially since the phils have done better as of late then the eagles. If anything, should be chanting phillies at an eagles game.

seems like philly is just a magnet for people to come to and get wasted. then we get a bad rep as i suspect a lot of the trouble makers are not even from the city. It doesn't matter what sport, parade, ethnic holiday. the story is always the same.

anyone see the news coverage from the flyers friday night? the sports reporter was trying to down play philly's rough attitude and was interviewing people tail-gating. An older lady next to him was asked why philly fans were so hostile, he was leading her to say that we weren't, yet she proved the sterotype true by acting exactly how philly fans have been portrayed. the reporter was obviously embarrassed and they cut back to the studio.
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I'm not just talking about the announcers, you could hear the same "Lets go Mets" chants on Saturday on Fox. This is a disgrace. Like I stated before, I do not condone violence. But my family and I have had season tickets for a long time and waited a long time for a good team and shouldn't have to be embarrased like this. Where were all you "leave em alone" fans between 94-2002 huh? The true fans were down there cheering for the team even in the bad years, and I don't need to hear "leave them alone" from some fairweather fans that only show up when the team is good. Same with the Eagles, I love how we used to rock the Vet even when the team was bad during the mid to late 90's. Then all of a sudden the team gets good/raises prices by $50 a seat and then these fairweather fans have the nerve to call the die hard fans "animals?" Go back to the suburbs you fair weather fans.
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I think philly is much worse. boston and New york have a common respect for one another. yes there is a rivalry, but it's classy. I've been to yankee stadium in full sox gear and the worst I got was some dirty looks. At fenway, I've seen yanks and sox fans get in arguments, however the argument was intelligent to the point that if you closed your eyes you'd think you were listening to two analyists on baseball tonight.
What section at Fenway were you sitting in? I know a lot of fans with season ticets that will disagree with this statement. They will respect fans from anywhere else, but Boston is known for spitting on Yankee's fans. Not something to be proud of, but this rivalry is anything but "classy"

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the thing that people don't realize is if you're being loud and obnoxious you're ruining the game for fans of both teams.
Obnoxious I agree on, WE SHOULD BE LOUD!!! WE ARE FANS!!!

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I want to watch the game when I go, not listen to a moron who knows little if anything about the sport being played, talk smack. I like the eagles as much as the next guy, but when you chant e-a-g-l-e-s at a phillies game, you're insulting the phillies, especially since the phils have done better as of late then the eagles. If anything, should be chanting phillies at an eagles game.
Can't disagree too much here.

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seems like philly is just a magnet for people to come to and get wasted. then we get a bad rep as i suspect a lot of the trouble makers are not even from the city. It doesn't matter what sport, parade, ethnic holiday. the story is always the same.

anyone see the news coverage from the flyers friday night? the sports reporter was trying to down play philly's rough attitude and was interviewing people tail-gating. An older lady next to him was asked why philly fans were so hostile, he was leading her to say that we weren't, yet she proved the sterotype true by acting exactly how philly fans have been portrayed. the reporter was obviously embarrassed and they cut back to the studio.

Speak for yourself. We Flyers fans won an award from NHL for most aggressive and passionate hockey fans and I am proud of that.

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Old 04-21-2008, 11:06 AM
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Just count your blessings it isn't as bad as the Yanks-Sox thing.

Those folks are nuts.
I beg to differ. I was at Yankee stadium last week, there were plenty of Sox fans in the upper decks, and there were no incidents.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:08 AM
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You guys are all wrong. ESPN made fun of us so much last night it was embarrassing. Every time a "Lets go Mets" chant could be heard clearly, the commentators laughed. I don't care what you think, I don't want a NY chant in a stadium funded by OUR taxpayers for a team FUNDED by me and other fans. If you want to sit back and let them take over our stadium fine, but I will VERBALLY HARRASS THE HELL out of any Mets fans that come here. I do not want their experience to be nice and enjoyable. If I go to a game at Shea, I will not wear my teams colors and scream Phillies chants the whole time. Those chants were an ABSOLUTE INSULT TO OUR CITY!!

I will not make it Physical, but I will make it the least enjoyable experience and make them never want to come back to our stadium. If you defend them and allow them to embarrass us, you are fair game.

You will never hear a Yankees chant at a RedSox game and vice versa, if we want Met/Phillies to be the same level, we need to respect our stadium.
I totally agree, but when it becomes physical that's where you have to draw the line. I have been to a number of Phillies and Eagles games and heckling is fine.

Anybody see the Phillies fan push the Mets fan who caught a fair ball down the first base line. The camera caught some of it then ESPN quickly went to another camera. Hilarious!
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:10 AM
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Obnoxious I agree on, WE SHOULD BE LOUD!!! WE ARE FANS!!!
There is a huge difference between being loud and obnoxious, and being rude and hostile.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:12 AM
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There is a huge difference between being loud and obnoxious, and being rude and hostile.

Whats the difference between obnoxious and rude?
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:18 AM
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Whats the difference between obnoxious and rude?
Obnoxious means that you're just being flat-out annoying with no particular target, while rude implies that you are directing your emotion towards one or more actual people. I don't have a problem with somebody screaming "METS SUCK!" but I do have a problem with personally harassing someone just because they chose to don Mets apparel. They have just as much of a right to be at the ballpark without feeling uncomfortable as we do.
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Respectfully, alcohol AND testosterone. Eagles games are far worse.
What about the unique Philadelphia attytood? Not to say that fans in other cities are like choir boys, but isn't that a factor here?
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On my way back to the seat from the restroom at the Phillies-Mets game today, I saw a couple donned in Mets apparel being harassed by Phillies faithful. Upon telling them to leave the Mets fans alone, they turned their anger towards me. (For the record, I was wearing a Phillies cap.) Fortunately, I was on my way back towards my seat so I did not have to endure their taunts for long. Apparently Phillies fans who stand up for Mets fans are no better than Mets fans themselves in the eyes of Philadelphia.

This is not, of course, the first time I have experienced such hostility coming from Philadelphia sports fans, but it got me wondering why they feel a necessity to be this way. Though I am (and have long been) a Phillies fan, I have a lot of respect for our biggest division rivals (as well as any other opposing team) and see no absolutely no problem with their fans showing their support. Why am I in the minority?


Traitor.

and a blatant NY lover.

You should know better.




Why New Yorkers?

Becuase they come down here and say effed up things about Philly into their cell phones.

"No...It's not as shitty as I thought....the neighborhood looks bad bunot as bad"

and the steal all the good concert tickets too.
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