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Old 09-15-2008, 12:39 PM
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I studied ancient Hebrew at Westminster Seminary--the same for ancient Greek. I studied Latin at Boston Latin School for awhile, but I changed to French--especially after I came to Philadelphia.
Fantastic!

I really envy your linguistic skills. I studied Hebrew for 4 years... all gone now. I'm studying Czech these days.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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humber, after 23 years you never thought of him other than 'adopted'? and he has no problem with you telling the world he is illegitimate? Did you discuss this with him, or is this your enlightened interpretation?
First, my son has known he's been adopted all along, and the bond between us is very strong. He also knows that he was "illegitimate" and that his adoptive parents and siblings love him.

Second, regarding his biological mother, he is appreciative of her--that she did not abort (kill) him.

Third, I do not view being adopted as a nagative. I'm adopted myself in a way that perhaps you would not understand. I also did not reveal his name. I have two sons--one by adoption.

Fourth, if you really think my mind is so "little" (your last paragraph--not repeated here), how is it that you use the title, "counselor"? Is that what you tell your counselees--that their minds are so "little"? Where did you get your counseling training?
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:49 PM
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Ezra, no fair posting another contradiction when the other ones posted haven't been answered? Are you trying to boggle their little minds? LOL
I couldn't help myself. I was in a Google induced trance.
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humber, you say he knows he's adopted all along, can we surmise you and the family kept reminding him.
I never said nor implied being adopted was Nagative (your word).
Being constantly reminded that one is adopted by people who profess to include him in the family can well have a negative impact on a child, adolescent and young man.

And who told him he was illegitimate?
I've never known a mother who would be so callous.

The mind is little it composes approx. 1/54 th the total mass of an average 162 lb. man.

Did you erroneously believe I meant belittle?
It is a different word with a different meaning.
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Ezra, Google induce trance. Love it.
I too have fell under the numbing sensation as the eyes glaze from the screen glare of the monitor, the fingers like ants crawl across the keyboard collecting letters into words and paragraphs.
The fateful enter stroke questing the Great and Wonderful Wizard of Google resulting in pages and pages of unrelenting responses.
You Master Ezra have coined a phrase that children will repeat through generations.

Maw, can't do it now. I'm still in a Google induced trance. LOL

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Old 09-15-2008, 10:51 PM
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Returning to the original matter--Palin, etc, see:

Page last updated at 17:06 GMT, Monday, 15 September 200818:06UK

Who are the British creationists?
By Julian Joyce
BBC News


Widely believed in the United States, creationism - the belief that God created the earth and man in six days - is enjoying a resurgence of support in the UK, say its believers and its critics.

At first glance the Genesis Expo museum, in the naval town of Portsmouth, looks like any other repository of natural history exhibits: fossils of dinosaurs and unusual rock formations.

But focus on the narrative of the information panels alongside them, and you start to realize this is a museum with a difference - one dedicated to the theory of creationism.

The revelation that US vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin says creationism should be taught in schools, alongside that of evolutionary theory, has raised few eyebrows in the US. An estimated 47% of Americans reject outright Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, accepting instead the Bible's account of the creation of the universe - as laid out in the first chapter of Genesis.

But in Britain, where a portrait of Darwin appears on the back of the £10 note, his theory of life evolving from primitive to complex structures by means of natural selection appears to be unchallenged orthodoxy.

Not so, say those on both sides of the creationist divide - a point amply proved by the existence of the Genesis Expo museum, to date Britain's only creationist museum. The museum is the work of Britain's oldest creationist group, the Creation Science Movement, which has built Genesis Expo to visibly challenge the theory of evolution.

To read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/761340 3.stm
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Keep in mind that the meaning of the word 'day' is open to interpretation. E.g. 'In it's day'. While clearly the Bible didn't use the English word 'day', there is not much lost in translation.
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Old 09-16-2008, 03:32 AM
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From the Haggadah...

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Rabbi Elazar ben Azariah said to them, "Behold, I am like a man of seventy years of age, but I never merited having the story of the Exodus told at night until ben Zoma expounded what is written in "that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life" (Deuteronomy 16,3)--"the days of thy life", that is the days; "all the days of thy life", the nights as well. And the Sages say "the days of thy life", this world; "all the days of thy life", the world to come in the days of the Messiah.
As you can see here, an example of the interpretation of the word "day". Day, according to generations of Rabbi's, can be anything from 24 hours to some cosmic chunk of time.
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In pre medieval times day consisted of the hours from sunlight to sundown. Night was a separate entity.
Druids, Celtics, Traveling people, and most earth based religions were based in this ethic. As people became more aware the two gradually merged to todays concept midnight to midnight. Notice the midnight hours hold the dominant position of start and end.
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