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Old 09-13-2008, 05:33 PM
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I have met Art Caplan, and I don't buy his bona fides as an expert in 'ethics'. He is trying to impose his faith system on others. What he believes is as much religious as what Palin believes, but he tries to act like his beliefs are somehow more justifiable than hers.
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:35 PM
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Lets agree that the rule entropy applies. Order will always devolve into Chaos. That leaves us with the question. How did the Chaos that existed become Order? I posit one possibility, an all encompassing incomprehensible. What is your suggestion?
Good job, again. I would be more specific, however. The All-Encompassing One is the Lord Jesus Christ. He came into my life when I was 7, and I am currently 66. He has never failed me. I praise His Holy Name!
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:42 PM
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It is good that you have met the Creator and she gave you her name.

Or did someone else put the name in your mouth?

Again, you break your own rule by praising a name instead of your god.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:25 PM
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Again, you break your own rule by praising a name instead of your god.
Apparently you are unfamiliar with Philippians 2:9-10. In short, I was not breaking any biblical (or my own) rule. Have you now become my judge?
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Lets agree that the rule entropy applies. Order will always devolve into Chaos.
That leaves us with the question.

How did the Chaos that existed become Order?

I posit one possibility, an all encompassing incomprehensible.

What is your suggestion?

I enjoy the bible's many tales of human foibles and frailities, but my mind boggles at the concept that a God would give men the commandments and then tell them to break any one of them. Thou shalt not commit murder.

My belief in a Creator does not concieve of one that would present such a contradiction.

This convinces me the bible was written by men and interpreted by fools.
Are you saying most clergy are fools ?
The way the Bible contradicts itself from one chapter and verse to another does argue it was written by men not an all knowing diety.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:24 AM
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Are you saying most clergy are fools ?
The way the Bible contradicts itself from one chapter and verse to another does argue it was written by men not an all knowing diety.
Please share the most serious Bible-contradiction (not a whole list) from your perspective. Let us discuss whether it is a real contradiction--or just a perceived contradiction. If you want to do more than one--okay, but let's do just one at a time.
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You would like to reduce the rampant number of contradictions to just one.
That's not how it is done. Even one contradiction is unthinkable in an all knowing all seeing diety.
Diety is a self-defining word for perfect.

Because the bible has multitude contradictions it is not perfect ergo it was not inspired by nor written by God.

It is a product of men set to attain their specific goals at that particular time frame.

Now you want to give me your interpretation of a flawed book.

Why would I want your interpretation? Am I incapable of reading the words and understanding their meaning on my own?

Are you implying I have less intelligence than you?

Or are you telling me you have had a visit from God explaining to you in detail every religious tenet?

Go shout it from the mountain. Listen to the echo that is you hearing yourself speak.
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You would like to reduce the rampant number of contradictions to just one. That's not how it is done. Even one contradiction is unthinkable in an all knowing all seeing diety.
Jesus said Scripture cannot be broken. You have said it can be broken. IOW, you know more than Jesus. Okay, show me one place where Scripture can be broken. I've studied it for most of my life, have studied it in both Greek and Hebrew, and I have found Scripture to be true.
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You would like to reduce the rampant number of contradictions to just one.
That's not how it is done. Even one contradiction is unthinkable in an all knowing all seeing diety.
Diety is a self-defining word for perfect.

Because the bible has multitude contradictions it is not perfect ergo it was not inspired by nor written by God.

It is a product of men set to attain their specific goals at that particular time frame.

Now you want to give me your interpretation of a flawed book.

Why would I want your interpretation? Am I incapable of reading the words and understanding their meaning on my own?

Are you implying I have less intelligence than you?

Or are you telling me you have had a visit from God explaining to you in detail every religious tenet?

Go shout it from the mountain. Listen to the echo that is you hearing yourself speak.

Great argument.
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:56 PM
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If the Bible has so many internal contradictions it can't possibly hurt to humor us with just one. I for one would enjoy a fuller understanding of the most important book ever written (even if you think that it is merely literature you have to admit that it has had a greater impact on the world than any other book).
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