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06-18-2008, 09:31 PM
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Relativity and Creationism
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06-18-2008, 09:56 PM
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Where did you get this pseudo-scientific tripe?
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Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want it badly enough.”" -Randy Pausch, from "Achieving Your Childhood Dreams," also known as The Last Lecture
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06-18-2008, 10:51 PM
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OK...I will admit it...I've had a few margaritas tonight and I'm about half in the bag. But I have to ask...why is it so improbable to fundamentalists that perhaps evolution and quantum physics is the way that God works? "God works in mysterious ways" was how I was taught in amongst the Southern Baptists as a child. Why can't relativism, evolution, and subatomic particles be part of that mystery? Why is it so awful that science may have reached the sophistication to quantify God a little bit? Why does it absolutely have to be "from the rib of Adam?" Why can't the Big Bang be an action of God?
Ok...tequila makes me exisitential, I guess... 
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06-19-2008, 01:05 AM
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A link to a .PDF file? Really?
for shame.
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06-19-2008, 12:09 PM
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06-19-2008, 03:46 PM
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I don't think we'll truly understand it all. Someone mentioned subatomic particles. Many new age religions try to explain creation through cosmic activity such as the science mentioned. While we may not know everything, where I become stumped is if we all started out as babies, how did we originally survive since without nurture and care we in theory would have died. This question can also be applied to baby animals.
What originally nurtered life on Earth? I don't discount old religious beliefs. They obviously originate from something internal which could be part of our cosmic makeup in touch with the universe that created us. But I think it's a little more complicated than put on while also believing something had to have nurtured life in the beginning on Earth. Anyways, What'd Joel Osteen say to Jesus when he showed up in Houston at his church? Hold it, Jesus, we have vandalism laws now buddy. Cosmic Thing  
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06-19-2008, 10:19 PM
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I am totally with you- and I didn't even have anything to drink tonight! Seriously- somehow fundamentalists find it hard to have deep spiritual belief, and the mystery of faith on the one hand, and real science on the other.
The science has to fit into the Bible box, or somehow it doesn't count for them... I have never understood that phenomena... In the Bible Study and discussion small group I lead at my home, we have been looking at a book called:  Confronting the Controversies, by Adam Hamilton- a United Methodist pastor In it he explores topics like: church and state, prayer in schools, death penalty, creation and evolution, and homosexuality It has been a fascinating discussion group because within the group there are people with beliefs on all sides of the progressive < > conservative spectrum. I think the main thing is to discuss the merits of both sides openly and also reflect upon it from one's faith and/or ethical perspective. Quote:
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Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want it badly enough.”" -Randy Pausch, from "Achieving Your Childhood Dreams," also known as The Last Lecture
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08-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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