Vatican adds 7 more sins - Page 3 - PhillyBlog

Ezra · #21 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 12:22 PM

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BTW, it seems to me that proscribing "excessive wealth" is unnecessary since one of the 7 deadly original sins was greed, which pretty much covers that situation.

The sins of lust and gluttony never went over too well with the faithful either.

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Study finds some faithful less likely to pass the plate

http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/...o.obesity.html

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. — Religious shepherds need to keep better watch over their flocks and add activities to keep from fattening them up, says a Purdue University researcher who has found that some religious activities may promote obesity.

"America is becoming known as a nation of gluttony and obesity, and churches are a feeding ground for this problem," says Ken Ferraro, a professor of sociology who has studied religion and body weight since the early 1990s. "If religious leaders and organizations neglect this issue, they will contribute to an epidemic that will cost the health-care system millions of dollars and reduce the quality of life for many parishioners."

He analyzed the religious practices and body mass index, often referred to as BMI, of more than 2,500 people during an eight-year period from 1986 to 1994. He found that the use of religious media resources, such as television, books or radio, was a strong predictor of obesity among women. The incidence of obesity increased by 14 percent for this group. At the same time, the more often women attended religious services, the less likely they were to be obese.

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Conservative Christians of all types, evangelical as well as Catholic, tend to link their conservative brand of their religion with proper moral behavior. By far the most popular context is marriage: they claim that a good, solid marriage is only possible when people acknowledge conservative Christianity's claims about the nature of marriage and gender roles. So why is it that Christian marriages, and especially conservative Christian marriages, end in divorce more often than atheist marriages?

The Barna Research Group, an evangelical Christian organization that does surveys and research to better understand what Christians believe and how they behave, studied divorce rates in America in 1999 and found surprising evidence that divorce is far lower among atheists than among conservative Christians — exactly the opposite of what they were probably expecting.

11% of all American adults are divorced
25% of all American adults have had at least one divorce

27% of born-again Christians have had at least one divorce
24% of all non-born-again Christians have been divorced

21% of atheists have been divorced
21% of Catholics and Lutherans have been divorced
24% of Mormons have been divorced
25% of mainstream Protestants have been divorced
29% of Baptists have been divorced
24% of nondenominational, independent Protestants have been divorced

27% of people in the South and Midwest have been divorced
26% of people in the West have been divorced
19% of people in the Northwest and Northeast have been divorced

The highest divorce rates are in the Bible Belt: "Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama and Oklahoma round out the Top Five in frequency of divorce...the divorce rates in these conservative states are roughly 50 percent above the national average" of 4.2/1000 people.

zete_374 · #22 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 05:34 PM

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Why didn't child molestation make the list?

Because they would not have any priests left.

ChasingFoxes · #23 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 12:24 AM

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It's morally dubious to tell others how to live.

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Phillycatlady · #24 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 11:51 AM

I saw a car today that had a vanity plate that says SIN FREE. The car is a late model Cadillac. It just struck me funny and kind of ironic!

Wish I had a photo of it.

tbdiscovery · #25 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 11:55 AM

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tenzo · #26 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 12:14 PM

Hindus also have the lowest divorce rate of any group --only 5 percent have been divorced.

Buddhist come second. But this may be that Buddhism has the lowest percentage of people married (55%)

Buddhists and Jews have the highest level of High school graduation (97%), with Buddhist having the highest level of college education of any religion.

Muslims are by far the poorest in this country, with the richest being Jews

Fascinating survey http://religions.pewforum.org

Viru511 · #27 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 04:08 PM

I would like to commend the Catholic Church on updating their list of “deadly sins” for our modern culture. There appears to be some misconception on this board on what they actual mean. I have some opinions of my own.

1. “Bioethical” violations such as birth control – This is true – The ability to procreate is gift from God. As moral human beings, we shouldn’t strip sexuality down to pure pleasure- There is so much more to it than that. I recommend reading some of Pope John Paul II “Theology of the Body”.

2. “Morally dubious” experiments such as stem cell research – This kind of relates to number 1 – It isn’t morally right to stand in God’s position. We all know the debates about stem cell research. It can go on and on, but in the end, we cannot destroy life to preserve life. Period. What ever happened to adult stem cell research? The church is certainly in favor of healing the sick. Just look at all the hospitals founded by religious organizations.

3. Drug abuse – Thou shall not kill – Our life is a gift from god. We should not abuse it by feeding our bodies harmful chemicals that can potentially fatal damage. I think everyone should agree with me on this.

4. Polluting the environment – I don’t think the Vatican things that throwing a recyclable can in the regular trash is sinful. I think this applies to the big corporations and people with power that profit from polluting the environment.

5.Contributing to widening divide between rich and poor – I don’t think the Vatican is telling us that having money is wrong. There is certainly nothing wrong with generating wealth. It becomes a sin when we prey and profit off the poor. We really need to treat the poor with respect and realize that the poor are human’s deserving respect just like everyone else.

6. Excessive wealth – Similar to number 5 – The Vatican is not telling us that Money is sinful. It is only when we become self-righteous and place ourselves higher than God himself. Excessive wealth has the ability to make us feel powerful. I recommend reading the beatitudes. I think of Warren Buffett – a man with excessive wealth, but who doesn’t appear to be self-righteous. This is not sinful. I read several comments about the wealth of the church. First off, the Catholic Church is the bride of Christ. I think of all glory in the name of the church for all reason. The “bling” is created and preserved out of the reverence and majesty of Christ himself.

7. Creating poverty – this is self explained. Profiting off the poor and spending on one self (excessive wealth) to the poor contributes to the creating of poverty. No – avoiding birth control doesn’t contribute to planning. Sure it sounds impossible, but society needs to change its idea of sex.

All in all, I believe that this list needs full consideration from everyone - religious or not.

tbdiscovery · #28 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 04:14 PM

How can a nation have currency without social stratification - including government?

Please introduce me to this God. It's an elusive character whom you seem to know well.

tenzo · #29 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 04:36 PM

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4. Polluting the environment – I don’t think the Vatican things that throwing a recyclable can in the regular trash is sinful. I think this applies to the big corporations and people with power that profit from polluting the environment.

So it means that sins apply to some people but not others?
Or that their are degrees to doing wrong and the church decides when the line is crossed (no pun intended)?

And how is it that you have one set of rules for 1,500 years and then someone says 'time out! New rules!'?

Are these rules retro-active.
Are some people that are in heaven going to get demoted? That seems rather unfair. Or are they not retroactive and people got into heaven following the first set and now, people behaving the same way go to Hell?
If it's not retroactive do some get grandfathered in?
Speaking of Grandfathers, mine lived on a farm and they threw their trash in a gully because there was no other place to put it.
Is he getting relocated?

tenzo · #30 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 05:11 PM

Oh, it's just Monsignor Gianfranco Girotti making a suggestion. He's such a busybody