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Old 11-14-2007, 10:20 PM
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It's my opinion that since some many Jews are in control of our medical establishment they foisted the disgusting practice on the population. It is not popular anywhere else in the civilized world.
You are a remarkable anti-semite. Jews are in control of our medical establishment? Should I add that to the media and the finance sector? That statement is based on unfathomable ignorance mixed with paranoia.

As for not being popular anywhere else, that's a recent phenomenon. Canada, the UK, and Australia have traditionally used it (more Jew influence?). And of course, circumcision is required for Muslims, though I'm sure you'll say that's not the civilized world.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:36 PM
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You are a remarkable anti-semite. Jews are in control of our medical establishment? Should I add that to the media and the finance sector? That statement is based on unfathomable ignorance mixed with paranoia.

As for not being popular anywhere else, that's a recent phenomenon. Canada, the UK, and Australia have traditionally used it (more Jew influence?). And of course, circumcision is required for Muslims, though I'm sure you'll say that's not the civilized world.
I'm an atheist, so I am indeed against religious groups. Judaism is no different than Islam my friend and I'm sure that part of you knows that.

Has your mind deleted the articles that I posted about the right of Jews as "family" to hire their own in every industry? The guy used Kantian ethics to justify his position. They're posted in our into to each other in the Pat Robertson thread.

Jewish doctors and lawyers are a stereotype even used by Jews as a point of pride. Their existence is the reason why we have doctors cutting children's' penises apart. Almost no other country does it because they don't have the same cultural problem as the US.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:47 PM
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I'm an atheist, so I am indeed against religious groups. Judaism is no different than Islam my friend and I'm sure that part of you knows that.

Has your mind deleted the articles that I posted about the right of Jews as "family" to hire their own in every industry? The guy used Kantian ethics to justify his position. They're posted in our into to each other in the Pat Robertson thread.

Jewish doctors and lawyers are a stereotype even used by Jews as a point of pride. Their existence is the reason why we have doctors cutting children's' penises apart. Almost no other country does it because they don't have the same cultural problem as the US.
Are you circumcised?
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:51 PM
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Jewish doctors and lawyers are a stereotype even used by Jews as a point of pride. Their existence is the reason why we have doctors cutting children's' penises apart. Almost no other country does it because they don't have the same cultural problem as the US.
Here's where all of your confusion is, but I can sort it out for you if you are humble enough to consider. #3 is the important one; don't bother to respond to 1 or 2 with emotion if you won't answer #3.

1) Jews are indeed over-represented in medicine and law (and accounting) in that they are not merely 2-3% of the group. That is rooted in recent history; if you were educated and wanted to make money, you couldn't do it by rising in business if you were a Jew because of discrimination. Therefore, they started proprietorships. Over-representation does not mean, however, that they are in a majority in those professions. Far far from it. Probably less than 20%.

2) Being a doctor does not mean that you control the medical establishment. If Jews commonly become doctors, that does not mean they decide that circumcision is routine practice.

3) Your assertion that other countries don't do it is a willful ignorance of the information I have already given you. Canada, Australia, and the UK were doing it routinely a few decades ago, and have recently scaled back due to public awareness campaigns. That supports a "cultural" argument, but completely shatters the Jewish argument. It seems that the most "British" places were the ones that took to using it the most.

I called you anti-semitic not for criticizing Judaism - I know that you criticize all religions - but because you blamed Judaism where it had no place, basing your theory on myth and suspicion.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:21 PM
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I was discussing circumcision with a friend (as you do in Europe) and the phrase "made in God's image" popped into my head. I started wondering about his odd Covenant with the Jews. I'll never get over the weirdness of having your deity ask you and all your clan to cut off part of your penis but never mind that. End result is a more attractive unit so no harm done. My question is... as we are all made in God's image... but the Chosen people are required to do a little hardcore bodmod... is God cut or uncut? Of course God is infallible but I can't but think he had second thoughts about the look of the penis. Maybe he designed it at first to be protected since it is the most precious thing a man has. But then changed his mind and opted for form over function.
Maimonides says in his Mishneh Torah that the foreskin is 'revolting' and that this is why G-d said to remove it.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:22 PM
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Maimonides says in his Mishneh Torah that the foreskin is 'revolting' and that this is why G-d said to remove it.

If its so revolting, why did God give it to males in the first place?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:23 PM
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If its so revolting, why did God give it to males in the first place?
Maybe so that the Jewish guys would get all the hot dates?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:26 PM
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Maybe so that the Jewish guys would get all the hot dates?
Hey most Catholic guys are circumcised!
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:33 PM
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Hey most Catholic guys are circumcised!
Only in the USA. In Europe almost all Gentile men are uncircumcised (except for Muslims).

With all those uncut penises in Europe (not to mention the horrific odor that goes along with many of them), I bet European men singlehandedly (or is that singledickedly?) created the ozone hole problem (think of all the cans of aerosol air freshener that must have been used over there just to clear it out!)
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:50 PM
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With all those uncut penises in Europe (not to mention the horrific odor that goes along with many of them),
You know this how? Personal experience?
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