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Old 07-15-2008, 09:07 PM
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Default Lazaro's driver spits on and curses at me over 2 dollar tip...

I ordered a small pizza from Lazaros whose total came to 10 dollars. I order from these guys all the time. Upon handing the driver 12 dollars he says 'is this it?' and i say 'yeah it's a 2 dollar tip, 20 percent, whats the problem' and he goes 'that's bullshit, you always bullshit'. at this point i tell him to **** off and he spits at me, hitting me on the arm.


Do I have any other option but to order some bullshit thing from them and when he gets here (after i verify it's him) dump a pot of boiling water on him? or should I just call the police?

I called the store and the guy said he'd take care of it, but somehow I think he won't.

At this point I've lost my appetite for the pizza

In conclusion, WTF
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:25 PM
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That's f'ed up, but it is a pretty weak tip.

If you've been tipping like that for some time I'd be worried there's spit on more than just your arm.

I'd probably still call the police, I think that's assault.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:35 PM
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Call me ignorant, but I usually tip a couple to a few dollars for delivery, it's not like they made the food themselves and some places have mandatory minimum orders and/or delivery fees...what is the appropriate tip - in your opinion - for a delivery?

BTW: face to face services ALWAYS get 20%

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That's f'ed up, but it is a pretty weak tip.

If you've been tipping like that for some time I'd be worried there's spit on more than just your arm.

I'd probably still call the police, I think that's assault.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:37 PM
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If you don't the guy is so unhinged that he'd come back for revenge, you could call his manager.
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I wouldn't call 20 percent weak. Standard, but not weak.
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20% in store is fine, when you're not covering the cost of the guys travel, gas, insurance...

I think of it this way, would I drive across town to drop off your food for $2? Nope.

I think delivery is minimum $3.50, meaning $4 unless the bill's like 12.30, in which case $16 total, or $3.70 tip.

I also wouldn't ever tip less than three in a diner or restaurant even if the bill were $6. 20% is a guide, but $3.50-4 is the minimum to make it worth the effort.

By the same token, if I order $40 worth of delivery, I might only tip $6, because he didn't do any extra work, so I guess my point is that 20% doesn't apply to a delivery tip.

If there is a built in charge that's a different story, and should be deducted from above calculation.

But obviously, that's just me, $2 sounds weak to me, not deserving of spit though.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
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That's absolutely assault (cursing at you) and battery (spitting). Dude could have a disease. Wash that arm well.

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:10 AM
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20% in store is fine, when you're not covering the cost of the guys travel, gas, insurance...

I think of it this way, would I drive across town to drop off your food for $2? Nope.

I think delivery is minimum $3.50, meaning $4 unless the bill's like 12.30, in which case $16 total, or $3.70 tip.

I also wouldn't ever tip less than three in a diner or restaurant even if the bill were $6. 20% is a guide, but $3.50-4 is the minimum to make it worth the effort.

By the same token, if I order $40 worth of delivery, I might only tip $6, because he didn't do any extra work, so I guess my point is that 20% doesn't apply to a delivery tip.

If there is a built in charge that's a different story, and should be deducted from above calculation.

But obviously, that's just me, $2 sounds weak to me, not deserving of spit though.
Donald trump over here with his $4 tips for a pizza delivery.

I understand the minimums when the bill is under 10 bucks, you still give the guy a couple bones even if it comes out as a high %. But once the pizza already costs $14.xx before it gets to your door, I aint handing the guy a 20 spot unless it was super fast or something.

Delivery is not the same as in-house service... driving to a string of houses one after another dropping food and getting a tip at each one is very different from constantly checking on a table making sure they are OK and bringing them multiple dishes over the course of a meal (all for one tip).
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:55 AM
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I think $2 is fine. I think Lazaros has a $1 devery fee also.
Cannot beleive he did that.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:55 AM
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20% in store is fine, when you're not covering the cost of the guys travel, gas, insurance...

I think of it this way, would I drive across town to drop off your food for $2? Nope.

I think delivery is minimum $3.50, meaning $4 unless the bill's like 12.30, in which case $16 total, or $3.70 tip.

I also wouldn't ever tip less than three in a diner or restaurant even if the bill were $6. 20% is a guide, but $3.50-4 is the minimum to make it worth the effort.

By the same token, if I order $40 worth of delivery, I might only tip $6, because he didn't do any extra work, so I guess my point is that 20% doesn't apply to a delivery tip.

If there is a built in charge that's a different story, and should be deducted from above calculation.

But obviously, that's just me, $2 sounds weak to me, not deserving of spit though.
Tipping is out of control as it is. I still think that 15% is a standard tip and 20% is a sign that you're very happy with service.

Unless the delivery driver is going 6 miles away (assuming 12 mpg, conservatively) which would cost him $2, the driver isn't losing money. 20% should be fine. I'm not paying for his car insurance or his time, that's his own responsibility and his boss's, respectively. Besides, he's most likely got 4 or 5 deliveries in the same vicinity so it's not like your tip has to pay for his trip.
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