kids not allowed 'at the bar' - Page 4 - PhillyBlog

JillyS · #31 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiesAuxiliary

I'd find it inhibiting if I were engaging in a crass conversation with some friends, even at brunch, with a 5 year old in the chair next to me.

Are you just talking about bars, or would my child inhibit your crass conversation at a place like Sabrina's, Morning Glory or Apamate? Either way, I'm not sure how that's my problem. If your conversation is too "crass" for me (I don't really offend easily though) or my offspring, I would simply leave, not expect you to censor yourself.

Also, I'm sure there are bar-going adults who are annoyed by other adults who have crass conversations next to them, just as you are annoyed by a child next to you...

LadiesAuxiliary · #32 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:41 PM

For the sake of this conversation I am just talking about bars; I don't want to have to think about making my conversation kid-friendly after a drink or two no matter the time of day. I specified brunch because so many people said they thought it was great to bring their kids to bars for brunch, lunch, or early dinners. Bars are for adults - if people want kid-friendly brunches and lunches, they can try the places you mentioned, among countless others in the city.

JoePSU · #33 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiesAuxiliary

There are countless ways to teach your children about diversity and expose them to civilized society outside of a BAR. When you have kids you're signing off on your ability to get dinner and a drink anywhere, anytime; isn't that what some people consider as one of the downsides of having children, the changes to your everyday life?

Just because you live in the city doesn't mean your kids in a bar -- how quaint and quirky city life is! -- is as charming to other patrons as you think it is. I'd find it inhibiting if I were engaging in a crass conversation with some friends, even at brunch, with a 5 year old in the chair next to me.

Seriously, take the stick out of your ass. People don't take their kids around with the intent of giving a damn about you and your conversation, let alone "charming" you. If the kid isn't bugging out, and the parent doesn't mind hearing about your latest sexual exploits, (or whatever the crassness de jour is), what's it hurting?

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Bah, I'm overreacting to you, but whether its mamosas at North Third or a few beers and mussels at Monks, I don't think having a 5 year old there is going to ruin anyone's evening.

lbphilly · #34 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiesAuxiliary

Just because you live in the city doesn't mean your kids in a bar -- how quaint and quirky city life is! -- is as charming to other patrons as you think it is. I'd find it inhibiting if I were engaging in a crass conversation with some friends, even at brunch, with a 5 year old in the chair next to me.

Different folks have different discomfort levels. I would probably be uncomfortable if I were made an involuntary eavesdropper to someone's crass conversation with some friends. (Assuming that "crass" is a euphemism for pungent speech and/or subject matter that's a little TMI for some tastes.) And I certainly wouldn't want any child of my acquaintance -- or me either, for that matter -- to be around for some games of Quizzo.

GMonkey · #35 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:55 PM

I grew up going to bars with my dad. These were biker bars, blue-collar hang-outs, Polish clubs, etc. He would compete in billiards tournaments and I'd hang out and drink Vernors and eat peanuts and chit chat with the scraggly old guys.

I think that it made it far less of a forbidden pleasure when I was in my teens and 20s.

My daughter freaks out when we go to a pub. I always forcibly put her on a barstool and ask, "I forget which Scotch you prefer, is it Glenfiddich or Glenlivet?" and then she turns red, tells me that I'm not funny, and then we go get a table.

LadiesAuxiliary · #36 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 09:57 PM

Thanks for that profane (crass?) response, JoePSU.

The point of my argument is not that I have the mouth of a sailor and/or need to offer TMI in public ... am I the only adult in the world who speaks and acts differently when there are little kids around vs. when they aren't? I feel like it's opposite day here - bars are for those 21+, right?

This thread seemed to be following a path where people were gushing about how kid-friendly certain bars are, and I just don't see why that needs to be a trend.

JoePSU · #37 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiesAuxiliary

Am I the only adult in the world who speaks and acts differently when there are little kids around vs. when they aren't? I feel like it's opposite day here - bars are for those 21+, right?

Nah, I'm pretty much a jerk all the time...

lbphilly · #38 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LadiesAuxiliary

Thanks for that profane (crass?) response, JoePSU.

The point of my argument is not that I have the mouth of a sailor and/or need to offer TMI in public ... am I the only adult in the world who speaks and acts differently when there are little kids around vs. when they aren't? I feel like it's opposite day here - bars are for those 21+, right?

This thread seemed to be following a path where people were gushing about how kid-friendly certain bars are, and I just don't see why that needs to be a trend.

Part of the confusion here comes from the fact that they aren't, strictly speaking, just bars that we're talking about. Ten Stone, Sidecar, and yello'bar are all hybrid bars/restaurants. I think you'll find that a significant number of folks in this neighborhood are happy to see family-friendly establishments. Families are good for neighborhoods.

lbphilly · #39 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JoePSU

Seriously, take the stick out of your ass. People don't take their kids around with the intent of giving a damn about you and your conversation, let alone "charming" you. If the kid isn't bugging out, and the parent doesn't mind hearing about your latest sexual exploits, (or whatever the crassness de jour is), what's it hurting?

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Bah, I'm overreacting to you, but whether its mamosas at North Third or a few beers and mussels at Monks, I don't think having a 5 year old there is going to ruin anyone's evening.

Please. We're trying to create a family-friendly environment down here in SWCC. No talks about sticks in .... oh, it's just all too crass.

Be nice to each other on this thread, please....Granny is going to bed now.

dr_gingivitis · #40 (**permalink**) 04-12-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lbphilly

Please. We're trying to create a family-friendly environment down here in SWCC. No talks about sticks in .... oh, it's just all too crass.

Be nice to each other on this thread, please....Granny is going to bed now.

Granny and the kids are in bed, let's say crass words for a few hours since we can't do it in all those damn child infested bars!!!

Nappy
There, I said it.
Or was ho the offensive word?
I'm so confused.