Part of my growing up in "South Philly" was in the Tasker projects. Not one thing wrong with it, so why would it bother them. Unless they're snobs like "you know who".
The blue collar, hard working Irish didn't distinguish us as a different class of people just because they lived outside the projects and we called it "The projects", not Low density, mixed use{Section 8 combined with low income purchases}.

I know............. you're practically in Center City and that's why you stretch the truth to your friends.

I can see the High rises from Grays Ferry. Does that make my area CC too?

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Learn the truth about Danny Faulkners
murder and his murderer here:

http://www.danielfaulkner.com/

Washington avenue is only a psychological divide... i cannot fathom how people who live north of washington could feel freaked out about crossing a 4 lane street... Thats whats holding us back from truly becoming great...and by the way the new name for north pennsport...is NOPO!!! thats right young-buckets add that to the list of sub-genres...its all brotherly love...

Screw S. Philly. It is the new N. Philly. QV/BV are special because they know what trashcans are and how to use them.

Well, to see this from another perspective.
Gray's Ferry has lots and lots of parks. Lots of open space with grass. We have parking here. No double parking, no time limits. Nice to be able to park without driving around the block a few hundred times.
The houses on 30th and Tasker street are nice. They have lawns and private parking. A lot better than what it use to be. It was total crap before. They're called affordable housing. Not the projects.
No, South Philly is South Philly. We're not the "new" anything.

And from what I've seen people in Center City and other sections have troubles with using a trash can, also. The only difference is they have community workers picking up after them.

Nobody's ever bothered me here. I've never been threatened, mugged and my house has never been broken into.
It's definitely got it's flaws but so does every other part of the city.
So for those of you who want to insult it and put us down- you can all kiss our asses.

Screw you Zete.
I can't believe people are freaked out over a four lane street.
I think that's a really lame excuse.

You're actually R Crumb, aren't you? How's the south of France?

Actually, Southwark was everything south of Cedar (South) Street. It didn't have a western border, as far as I can tell.

Southwark
West of Pennsport from Mifflin Street to Washington Avenue, 4th to 8th Streets.
1762

South Philadelphia
South of South Street, between Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers.

Queen Village
Below South Street, along Delaware River to the vicinity of 8th and Carpenter Streets.
1970s

Bella Vista
Between 6th and 11th Streets, South Street to Washington Avenue.
1976

Einstein Southern (R.D.A)
Bounded by 4th, Dickinson, 5th and Reed Streets
1966

http://www.phila.gov/phils/docs/otherinfo/pname3.htm

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Peter Cetera:
Sometimes I just forget
Say things I might regret
It breaks my heart to see you crying

SOUTHWARK, named for the London suburb which contained
the "south-work" for the defense of London Bridge, was created into a
"municipality" by the Legislature in 1762, and received full incorporation
in 1794. In 1854 it was bounded on the north by South street, ON THE WEST
BY PASSYUNK AVENUE from 5th and South to 10th and Reed. The boundary
then ran along Reed street, down 7th, and along Mifflin street to the river.

http://www.library.upenn.edu/dataset...s/1854twpa.jpg

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/dbwh...2484_whole.pdf

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And so it was that later
as the miller told his tale
that her face, at first just ghostly,
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Southwark school on 8th & Mifflin.