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Goalie · #11 (**permalink**) 02-20-2008, 08:44 PM

I remember Frankie DiCicco saying "this is what people want to stop them from moving to the burbs !!! porch-yard-garage".

This was at a meeting at Geo Wash School and neighbors were saying WTF ?

thayer · #12 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Goalie

I remember Frankie DiCicco saying "this is what people want to stop them from moving to the burbs !!! porch-yard-garage".

This was at a meeting at Geo Wash School and neighbors were saying WTF ?

Were they saying WTF because of how different a house with a porch-yard-garage would be compared to theirs or because they didn't think that's what people wanted?

alesis · #13 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 04:19 PM

At any community meeting, you must always listen to Frank Dicicco. Then, imagine the exact opposite of what he said. If you take THAT as fact, you can get digest his "facts", which are nothing more than his personal thoughts.

Bye Bye NYC · #14 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 04:31 PM

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I never did fully understand the whole porch thing. Maybe because I've only ever lived in major cities on the west coast and some really rural places in New England.

I think I understand the whole neighborly, social concept, but who has time to just sit and spend hours on end doing nothing. I live close to these Jefferson Square homes and everybody there seems to have a busy life, work, tv, hobbies, etc etc. I do sometimes peek over the fences and see some people playing with their kids in the backyard. Call me anti-social, but I like how it's somewhat dead. I'd really rather not have kids running all over the street and neighbors chatting it up all the time and getting into stupid quarrels which inevitably leads to some stupid criminal act. Don't get me wrong, knowing your neighbors and being active in neighborhood actives is great, but do we really need to sit on our stoop every night and stare at passersby while talking about nothing?

It's a matter of taste, Thayer. I came from the 'burbs where you'd swear no one was living because the street was so dead. I grew up in NYC in a neighborhood where during the summer the neighbors would sit out on their front porches and occasionally migrate to the stoop to chat with passersby. I really missed the friendliness of my NYC neighborhood when I moved out to Wrong Island and am so glad I finally found that sense of caring and community here on Second Street. Yes, my neighbors are newsie, but not one of them would hesitate to come busting in the door if s/he thought I needed help or throw a party for whatever milestone someone else was celebrating. You want anonymity, move to the burbs. Your neighbors will quickly let you know they could care less unless your lawn is greener than theirs.

lemonfresh · #15 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 05:07 PM

It's been a while since I've been over that way, now that plastics are picked up curbside, but I used to notice that a few of these houses on Wharton seemed to be unoccupied. Were they bought by people who only ever intended to flip them? That kind of irks me if so. People camped out to get a shot at affordable new construction.

alesis · #16 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 05:27 PM

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It's been a while since I've been over that way, now that plastics are picked up curbside, but I used to notice that a few of these houses on Wharton seemed to be unoccupied. Were they bought by people who only ever intended to flip them? That kind of irks me if so. People camped out to get a shot at affordable new construction.

Its exactly what happened. That, plus I know one was purchased for this reason while they store sneaker shipments in it for their business. And one was purchased by a drug dealer who lived in it for a month then moved back to his section 8 home in society hill...yes kids, there is section 8 living in society hill-you just have to look a bit closer. He's still making payments on it and is merely waiting to cash out.

Bye Bye NYC · #17 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 09:49 PM

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Its exactly what happened. That, plus I know one was purchased for this reason while they store sneaker shipments in it for their business. And one was purchased by a drug dealer who lived in it for a month then moved back to his section 8 home in society hill...yes kids, there is section 8 living in society hill-you just have to look a bit closer. He's still making payments on it and is merely waiting to cash out.

PLEASE tell me this is one of your jokie posts. PLEASE!

Oh, the irony!

alesis · #18 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 09:54 PM

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PLEASE tell me this is one of your jokie posts. PLEASE!

Nope. Unfortunately, its all too true.

UncleCranky · #19 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 10:53 PM

I have always thought our houses were ugly. That being said they were a sweet deal ($250K for a house that could be sold immediately after close for $350K).

More importantly the houses are laid out great (only 2 stories but are as large as the big 3 stories on Wharton), have a porch a huge yard for South Philly and a garage.

As for the new neighborhood being dead. I can see that. For whatever reason there doesn't seem to be many new neighbors milling about at any given time. It wouldn't be fair to compare JS to Pennsport or other parts of SP where everyone knows there neighbor as this is a new hood with 100 homes.

-UC

Peanut206 · #20 (**permalink**) 02-23-2008, 04:38 PM

Everytime these damn real estate sales people want to over charge you for a home-they throw a fancy little "square" to the name of the vicinity and make you think that it's oh so hip and la tee da and you'll be stupid enough to actually pay the inflated price.
I'm tired of the "squares" that seem to be happening all over Philly. We've become a Luxury this and that to Low Income these and those.
What about a medium here, people?