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Old 02-11-2008, 10:05 PM
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No I don't think you get points, its just a fine...
That's odd. Running reds seems way more dangerous than speeding.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:36 PM
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These are two different violations.

The driver gets the points if he/she is cited by a police officer for Disregarding Steady Red Signal PA MVC 3112-a-3-1. Same as if you were stopped for speeding, you get points.

The traffic camera cannot prove conclusively who was driving the car, so the registered owner receives the fine, but no points. I Forget the PA MVC section. FYI, speed enforcement cameras are being proposed and will be handled the same, no points just the fine.
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:23 PM
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These are two different violations.

The driver gets the points if he/she is cited by a police officer for Disregarding Steady Red Signal PA MVC 3112-a-3-1. Same as if you were stopped for speeding, you get points.

The traffic camera cannot prove conclusively who was driving the car, so the registered owner receives the fine, but no points. I Forget the PA MVC section. FYI, speed enforcement cameras are being proposed and will be handled the same, no points just the fine.
Can anyone confirm this? I was just busted going through that Broad/Oregon intersection.

F#$K!

$100 fine (which is reasonable)

but I would be ticked to high he!! if this added points to my already expensive insurance

I'm not taking that road home no more

F@#K!
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:12 PM
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What Lee's post says is that you don't get points on a ticket from a red light camera because they can't prove who was driving the car at the time of the infraction.

As for you not taking that road home any more, I think that's a good thing: Broad & Oregon is always a cluster****; fewer people using the intersection would make it better.
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What Lee's post says is that you don't get points on a ticket from a red light camera because they can't prove who was driving the car at the time of the infraction.

As for you not taking that road home any more, I think that's a good thing: Broad & Oregon is always a cluster****; fewer people using the intersection would make it better.
I know. I want to make sure it's true.

I took Broad home the other day to avoid the jam on I95. I'm staying on I95 until the bitter end from now on. Heck, at the rate gas prices are increasing, I'm taking public transportation to work soon.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:56 PM
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OH Lee is a police officer; he's also extremely well-informed.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:10 PM
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OH Lee is a police officer; he's also extremely well-informed.
Awesome

And let me take this opportunity to apologize for running the red light
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While I don't know how accurate it is, photoenforced.com seems to think the broad and oregon camera is the only one in South Philly so far.

http://www.photoenforced.com/philadelphia.html
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:41 PM
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I think that maps more or less right; there's only a handful in the city so far, though I thought there were more on Roosevelt at this point (they put them up at the absolute worst intersections first).
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:17 PM
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Rear end accidents are way up on the Blvd. due to people jamming their brakes at yellow lights.
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