Me too.

Plant a tree out front of your house

Stop Breathing. Use your body as compost for a community garden. Get someone to eat a tomato fertilized with your decomposed bones.

Repeat.

Fortunately, your fandom already gives you green cred with the patchouli-reeking birkenstock wearing douchesnobs; that is, if you believe the flags near the art museum.

They actually promote a lot of recycling and put a lot of money towards planting trees

While yeah, a lot of what you're laying down smacks of fashion, there is something to be said for green accounting. I'm not sure if you're jesting or whether indeed this is just a guy who uses recycled paper or an abacus instead of digital power drains; but real green accountants usually have clients think about their energy consumption, carbon footprint, etc. often showing that there's economic gain to be had. More useful for businesses than a household, but there's something to be said for the $$ savings of a non b.s. green lifestyle of some degree.

Someones b.s.'d you. Citric acid is what makes citrus fruits, well, citrus. My guess is you're talking about the Steaz line of energy drinks. They're actually pretty tasty and give a good boost. Citric acid, while useful in the production of explosives in large quantities (hence the anarchist cookbook b.s. about combining O.J. with gasoline to make napalm), just doesn't do what you say it does.

I'm pretty sure the fest "went too far" in some regards, your diss though also went a bid overboard and wound up highlighting your lack of familiarity with some environmentally sound concepts as well as basic chemicals in human nutrition.

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All this wasted effort by the left when the neoconservatives are actually out there being proactive and cutting the carbon emissions of countless thousands of Muslims to zero.

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I must respectfully disagree with you Steak.

Just because I may sell to virgins, does that make me one? If I provide services to vegans, does that make me a vegan when I use the profits to go and buy a big juicy steak?

Even if this accountant is a vegan who insulates his home with soy and only signs papers with biodegradable pens-"green" accountants are as illusionary as Santa Claus.
Now, if they are using a water powered calculator, I may bend on this one...
http://reshamdatta.instablogs.com/en...techno-marvel/

As for citric acid, I do know what I am talking about. are currently researching 'open gnu' soft drink formulas for a restaurant concept I've been working on for quite some time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola
Citric acid has as much to do with oranges as sucralose has to do with natural sugar. Citric acid is fermented and crystalized from corn starch, then refined further. Even expensive citric acid is derived from glucose then purified by using mold.
Anyone can say it makes citrus "citrus", just as splenda's ad campaign misled consumers by saying "it tastes like sugar because it comes from sugar". The simple fact is that citric acid is just another corn derived chemical that could be replaced with more natural raw materials-maybe oranges, perhaps?
Save the citric acid to clean sewage:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_50146400

When I was in another country, here was the wacky ingredient list of Lipton Ice Tea:
Water, Tea, lemon, cane sugar

Amazing-and they were not touting to be green! What's the formula in america?
WATER, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, TEA, CITRIC ACID, SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE (TO PROTECT FLAVOR), NATURAL FLAVORS, PHOSPHORIC ACID, POTASSIUM SORBATE AND POTASSIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVE FRESHNESS), CARAMEL COLOR, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA (TO PROTECT FLAVOR), RED 40.

Instead of making the world green by making the next catchy thing to market, these bastions of righteousness should focus on convincing american companies to do what is done in other countries...make existing products wholesome rather than working on how to make it cheaper.

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at least philly has green bums. they fertilize our parks and streets using 100% all natural dung.

We got two disagreements here, Alesis. I'm going to cede the latter, but the former I think still needs to be cleared up.

Here you're willfully missing the point. A "green accountant" is not
"green" because they use "green" materials in the act of accounting (hence my tongue in cheek mention of a no carbon footprint abacus). Rather, a "green accountant" advises a client on conducting the client's financial affairs in a manner that is both fiscally and environmentally sound. Say investing in renewable energy for tax credits, buying a fleet of hybrid or electric vehicles to lower fuel costs, etc. Maybe the guy you saw simply uses recycled paper. In that case, I'd agree he's not a green accountant, just a marketing opportunist. But there is something to be said for green accounting practices.

Your analogies about virgins and vegans don't really fly. A nutritionist could give someone sound nutritionally advice, and then go home and feed him or herself a meal of Hormel chilli and ramen, polished off with a box of Krispy Kremes and would still be a nutritionists. On a certain noral ethical level, you might call her a hipocrite, but he or she's doing the job.


So we don't digress, if you don't mind I might PM you about this, as I'm really into soft drinks of all sorts, and while only as pipedream, someday I'd like to take my hobby/interest and take a stab at it as a labor of love.

OK, you're talking about the most common industrial production of
citric acid, but that is not the only way industries make it. I don't know the labelling requirements to go on "organic" or "natural" beverages (again, for me it's just a hobby) but I don't know if your hostility to the beverage in question (Steaz? -- I'll say I don't like their regular products, but I have enjoyed the energy drink beverages. My tongue isn't a chemical analyzers, but my palette and gut and blood pressure found it a much easier drink than both mainstream energy drinks and sodas.

Yes, I've heard of different formulas, that's why I generally only drink Coke when I can grab an "import" bottle at a taqueria. On the other hand, the raw honesty of the label in "the other country" depends largely on that country's regulatory environment. In some countries what you see is what you get, in others labels just give you a rough idea of what the marketers want you to see yourself drinking.

Yes, in principle, and I'd argue Steaz, Boylan's "Natural" line and the like thrive on the "wholesome" market (again, I'm not as well studied in this as you apparently are, so go ahead and eviscerate Steaz, but please tell me Boylan can remain in this steak's soft drink rally's pole position). But the "Big Food Producers" wouldn't be the giant entities they are today if it wasn't for their cost-cutting moves backwhen, and ultimately you're talking about shareholders, not neccessarily conscience when it comes to Pepsi and Coca-Cola.

You're right, industry should be lobbied to adopt more wholesome production techniques, and they are. Unfortunately much of the "green" trend's most vocal advocates is hopelessly anti-business. Back to my initial response, I'm sure there was a lot of b.s. at the fest. I still think there's more productive ways of addressing the b.s. than an outright ridculing pan.

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