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09-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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The Enviromental lobby is, as a whole, the next Joe McCarthy.
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09-08-2008, 07:50 PM
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Green is the new DotCom. and before that Grunge of the 90s and Punk in the 80s and Disco in the 70s and Hippies in the 60s....
Money follows the trends, since 1950.
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09-08-2008, 08:18 PM
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Sounds like a lot of greenwashing.
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09-09-2008, 12:05 AM
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Justice Stewart once remarked about obscenity, "I know what it is when I see it." The same can be applied to "green" (not that obscenity and "green" are in the same sphere but please follow my point). You don't need someone to label it "green". It doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow the plastic, "gassed-n-greened" vegetables from Mexico (unless you live near to Mexico...), etc to understand how you are impacting the environment. Know where you live and shop accordingly (I lived on the US/Mexico border and got great produce...avacados you would die for...but not expecting the same luxuries here. That said, the tomatoes here are delicious and you can't get sweet corn to save your life in southern california!). Just look at the product your buying and make your choice.
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09-09-2008, 02:45 AM
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"And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day."--Rev. Arnold Conrad
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09-09-2008, 12:35 PM
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I love it! Tell more!
I have my toy shop in Northern Liberties and I get some questions from time to time about how "green" we are. I personally believe that we can all do a little adding to a lot. For example, we do a lot of shipping and we use only corn starch packing peanuts which disolve in water. We offer paper bags and we offer plastic bags. The plastic bags are degradable when exposed to water and sunlight, I buy them in boxes of 1000 which is small and a fraction the size of buying multi sized paper bags - reducing box sizes allows more to be packed on a truck and reduces the footprint overall. Paper bags are potentially a worse offender than these platic ones I buy. The concept of "Green" is going to be a marketing boon to many companies - we are already seeing this on tv. I know it's on people minds and it should be, but there is now a judgemental aspect to this which is a bit frustrating. 
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09-09-2008, 12:51 PM
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That is because enviromentalists crave control. Once it is given to them, they gain a sense of piety which allows them to believe they can dictate other people's living habits.
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09-09-2008, 01:45 PM
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It gets hard to separate the BS from the real message: If we each do a little, a lot gets done. Every culture and society throughout history has had to deal with its waste issues and some civilizations have fallen as a result. But, when you have people screaming and talking so condescendingly to one another it just drowns out the real issues and turns people off or polarizes one side against the other. This is why I don't pay attention to Fox News and Air America. I just can't stand the arrogance on each side and the contempt they each project towards one another.
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