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Old 07-31-2008, 12:08 PM
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Cheese and rice people. Want to whine about a few words that hospitalitygirl made about a report that SHE provided YOU-oh that's right, you people who care so much didn't provide the information.

Here's more information you failed to provide as of last count. Philadelphia's latest annual statistics show that we're used to:
-about 400 murders a year
-about 1,000 rapes a year
-about 11,000 robberies a year
-about 11,000 Ag. Assaults a year
-over 11,000 Burglaries a year
-nearly 40,000 cases of theft a year

So, take each one of those numbers, divide them by the 52 weeks in a year, then multiply them by the 3 weeks represented by H-girl's statistics. Can't do that?

OK, here you go:
-about 23 murders every 3 weeks
-about 57 rapes every 3 weeks
-about 635 robberies, ag. assaults, and burglaries each, every 3 weeks
-about 2,300 thefts every 3 weeks

Now, if you don't understand the term "not that bad" for summertime, which is typically our worst time for criminal offenses, you are forever bound to the confines of stupidity.

thanks for the condescending math lesson.
the issue is what the community standards are. halve the crime rate and philly's safety level is still unacceptable. not to quote an unpopular president, but many of us suffer from the "soft bigotry of low expectations." i.e.: it's been a good week because all the murders were in other neighborhoods and all we got were a few violent muggings.
when the cops solve the beau zabel murder and shut down the obvious drug markets around the projects on christian street i'll start to believe that maybe the new chief and new mayor care about making our little part of the city safer. i don't think we should be excited about what in any other city would be a rather alarming crime report.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:22 PM
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Those knock-down victims--from all accounts--were not using their cellphones, listening to their Ipods, etc. at the time of the attack. They certainly did NOT have a "bullseye" on their back. Wake up, Polyanna.
I have had the opportunity on many occasions to observe a mugger size up his victim and location and then either go through with it or pass up the opportunity. Alot of criminals put some thought into what they are doing. They pick certain people & locations out, you would be surprised. They don't have "bullseyes" on their backs, but the muggings are less random than you think.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:27 PM
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...when the cops solve the beau zabel murder and shut down the obvious drug markets around the projects on christian street i'll start to believe that maybe the new chief and new mayor care about making our little part of the city safer...
The 3rd District is not one of the nine districts that are labled as having a high amount of violent crime and therefore get extra resources to deal with it.

Tell me, does that mean Mayor Nutter and Commissioner Ramsey care less about your little part of the city?
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:33 PM
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The 3rd District is not one of the nine districts that are labled as having a high amount of violent crime and therefore get extra resources to deal with it.

Tell me, does that mean Mayor Nutter and Commissioner Ramsey care less about your little part of the city?
if qv/bv is not getting resources because we're considered safe, that is unfortunate b/c it's not that safe a neighborhood.
given that philly has the highest taxes of any city save nyc--you'd think that resources wouldn't be the excuse that everybody gives.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:34 PM
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The West Philly incident is just an example of Darwinian population control. That is, black-on-black crime. What distinguishes the BV incidents is the fact that the victims (whom you are too eager to blame) were, most likely, white.
Why isn't white on white crime (found all over the US) Darwinian? Why isn't black on white crime Darwinian in your view of things? One could argue that a more dominant, possibly younger and stronger, and opportunistic individual is taking what they feel is necessary to thrive/survive. That sounds pretty Darwinian to me.

What makes black on black crime Darwinian? If you're trying to make some kind of point about lack of intelligence and those unintelligent individuals killing each other off, then why isn't some dumb f*ck meth-head white redneck killing another toothless redneck equally as Darwinian in nature.

While you're busy pondering your erroneous grasp of what Charles Darwin theorized, remember this: it's the poverty, stupid. Crime rates, drug use, prison time served, broken families, and unemployment are all connected to poverty level. Poverty level is directly connected to education level. Education level is directly connected to self-esteem, regard for others, and beliefs about personal responsibility. It doesn't matter if you are black or white or purple with pink polka dots.

There is definitely a point to be made about the crime in the area and it's causes and the challenges it presents to everyone who lives in these neighborhood, but, unfortunately, you're too stupid to make it.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:49 PM
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What makes black on black crime Darwinian? If you're trying to make some kind of point about lack of intelligence and those unintelligent individuals killing each other off, then why isn't some dumb f*ck meth-head white redneck killing another toothless redneck equally as Darwinian in nature.
People are so silly here..

OF COURSE Thats Darwinian in nature..

Get me some stats on how many red-neck meth heads are killing each other inside Philly City Limits.. and then we'll have that discussion. If this were a west virginia Forum I might agree that people are 'picking on' the black crimes and ignoring the White Crimes. But sorry the Red Neck Meth heads just aren't a very large population segment in philadelphia. Their almost non-existant i believe.

Go get a F***ing clue people don't talk about the 'white on white' crime as much because it doesn't happen as much in the city.. and if it does its probably some dude murdering his wife for cheating on him. Not 5 shootings 3 of which are bystanders cause someone dropped a dime on Tyreek.



/I'll get back to Alesis & Friends after lunch.. I gotta do a bit of searching to find the threads where I believe many a fool claimed "JUST CAUSE IT SECTION 8 DOESNT MEAN THEY"RE CRIMINALS"

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People are so silly here..

OF COURSE Thats Darwinian in nature..

Get me some stats on how many red-neck meth heads are killing each other inside Philly City Limits.. and then we'll have that discussion. If this were a west virginia Forum I might agree that people are 'picking on' the black crimes and ignoring the White Crimes. But sorry the Red Neck Meth heads just aren't a very large population segment in philadelphia. Their almost non-existant i believe.

Go get a F***ing clue people don't talk about the 'white on white' crime as much because it doesn't happen as much in the city.. and if it does its probably some dude murdering his wife for cheating on him. Not 5 shootings 3 of which are bystanders cause someone dropped a dime on Tyreek.

/I'll get back to Alesis & Friends after lunch.. I gotta do a bit of searching to find the threads where I believe many a fool claimed "JUST CAUSE IT SECTION 8 DOESNT MEAN THEY"RE CRIMINALS"

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Well, duh. I'm talking about the RETARD Alesis's conclusion that it's Darwinian specifically when it's black on black crime. I wasn't focusing specifically on urban Philadelphia or rural America. Just trying to get inside that pointed little head.

Oh, BTW if you think white meth-heads are almost non existent in the city of Philadelphia, then you must be living living under a rock or just as stupid as RETARD Alesis.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:09 PM
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I said Red-Neck White Meth-heads...

Not white meth-heads.

And they still aren't killing each other in as great of numbers.
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I said Red-Neck White Meth-heads...

Not white meth-heads.

And they still aren't killing each other in as great of numbers.
hmmmm...obviously you never experienced our fine family of pagans.
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:30 PM
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hmmmm...obviously you never experienced our fine family of pagans.
You'll have to enlighten me... Since I'm sure you have a personal relationship with the situation.
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