Neighborhood Conservation District - Page 20 - PhillyBlog

alesis · #**191** (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 06:56 PM

Actually, as their own idiocy points out-they didn't follow proper procedure because they didn't put a notice in a newspaper with a bonafied circulation...sorry QVNA, your crappy lil' newsletter does not count under the sunshine act.

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Originally Posted by nipseyrussell

yes, this part of the explanation is reminiscent of a story i once read about a man named arthur dent whose house was demolished one day while he was out."well the plans were on display!!" i think the whole planet went next, so look out!

alesis · #**192** (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehempburn

Over the last three or four years, the NCD Committee made four presentations at a General Meeting that were announced in the Crier, via email, and on the QVNA website.

AKA, we sent notices to people we wanted to inform, then people we wanted to inform, and to people who were already informed.

Shosh · #**193** (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lovephilly

QVNA was responsible for assembling all of the addresses (not an easy task) and the Councilman's office printed the labels. Neighborhood volunteers stuffed thousands of envelopes. (Two email blasts went out to hundreds of residents asking for volunteers; about ten people turned out.)

"Feel sorry for us! We worked really, really, really, really hard to print up that list of owners from the BRT website (but obviously not hard enough because we missed several blocks of owners) and then none of you helped stuff envelopes and so we again had to work really, really, really, really hard to mail the notices. So this bill should pass because we worked really, really, really, really hard and you didn't. And remember, we're all volunteers!"

nipseyrussell · #**194** (**permalink**) 06-06-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayfar

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe (for the benefit of anyone who hasn't read the book or seen the movie.)

its "galaxy", btw, and i was working under the assumption everyone had read it!

(and hopefully skipped the movie)

Jayfar · #**195** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nipseyrussell

its "galaxy", btw, and i was working under the assumption everyone had read it!

(and hopefully skipped the movie)

Oops, yes I knew that, although I must admit to possessing the dvd, which I rather enjoyed.

nipseyrussell · #**196** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 12:39 AM

ok, the movie wasnt that bad (after all, i just finished watching "i know who killed me" 5 minutes ago

), it just loses steam very early on and was forgettable

alesis · #**197** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 06:29 AM

Once again, they expose their faults. They fully admit that there are only a few hundred people on their email list. First they claim trasparency because they informed so many people via email-now it turns out there were only a few hundred.

Their B.S. about the BRT list is equally disingenuous. DiCicco plainly said that he got a list for them through the BRT. BRT lists come in xls spreadsheets. All they had to do is use a couple of clicks to turn the spreadsheet into mailing list stickers. Yeah-really hard work.

Maybe they should realize that if only a few neighbors came out to support a cause it means they don't know, don't care, or don't want it-which, either way, says that it shouldn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Shosh

"Feel sorry for us! We worked really, really, really, really hard to print up that list of owners from the BRT website (but obviously not hard enough because we missed several blocks of owners) and then none of you helped stuff envelopes and so we again had to work really, really, really, really hard to mail the notices. So this bill should pass because we worked really, really, really, really hard and you didn't. And remember, we're all volunteers!"

Tim K · #**198** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 02:18 PM

I intend to speak before council on Wednesday in opposition to this NCD. If anyone here would like to contribute some bullet points or statements that I can work into my comments I would be glad to include them.

-Tim

catmom3 · #**199** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 09:14 PM

Is it just the way I'm reading the email from QVNA or is this all about garages? And what about this--"Or even worse - it could be set back 20 feet with a concrete parking pad instead of a front garden. That takes away a space at the curb that you used to be able to park in. As long as the design complies with zoning (adequate rear yard and within the height limits) any of that is possible." I'm not seeing a lot of "front gardens" in Queen Village right now, even in front of homes without parking, unless you count planters and curbside trees.

The email says they've asked that the bit about security bars be removed--but they did put it in there in the first place, yes? And they want to "modify and reconsider the legislation as necessary"? No thanks. To me, that reads as, once it's passed, we'll see what other restrictions we can get away with putting in place.

Also, this may be a dumb question but if Society Hill has such restrictive zoning that isn't affecting property values, how come the new development at the old Newmarket site is such a big issue? The 'restrictive zoning' doesn't cover it?

It'sJessMe · #**200** (**permalink**) 06-07-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim K

I intend to speak before council on Wednesday in opposition to this NCD. If anyone here would like to contribute some bullet points or statements that I can work into my comments I would be glad to include them.

-Tim

If you go back a few pages in this thread, Shosh had a post detailing the first 13 or so points she could think of that were problems with this proposal. I used those as the basis for my letters and think you'll get more than enough information to work into your comments from those.