The legislation just says "property owners"....like everything else about this bill, it is vague and unclear and NO ONE could clarify it. One woman at the meeting kept asking whether she would get 5 votes if she owned 5 properties. No one could answer her because THEY DON'T KNOW. This legislation was clearly thrown together quickly by people who never thought it through.

I really don't know if the grass roots campaign can work. First of all, we'd have to get a number of people to spend quite a bit of time. I think the number of properties in QV is like 2,000. That means we would need 1,000 signatures. Secondly, it really requires some in depth explanation as to why this NCD is such a bad idea, since its been spun as such a good thing.

I really think this needs some media attention to get DiCicco to withdraw this bill.

That woman would be me. And no, it was never answered.

I note that they did, however, add the enabling legislation to the website, which is good because if you read that, you can see that the NCD is an even worse idea than it appears. It's also good because, as I pointed out in my e-mails to Carla and to DiCicco, the enabling legislation passed in 2004 was nowhere to be found on the internet -- including the city's own website, which purports to have the entire Philadelphia Code online. (Clearly, the web version of the City Code has not been updated since, my guess, Street took office).

Have you all written to DiCicco and to QVNA with your objections? Have you filed written objections with City Council? Granted, we need a more massive protest, but the work starts at home.

(BTW, I ask the above only because when I spoke to Carla a few days ago, she told me that after the meeting she had only received two e-mails about the NCD legislation -- mine and one other.)

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That sounds like a system in a country that has a dictatorship and does not tell the citizens that there is an election. Talk about having the cards stacked against you. Put it on the ballot in november.

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i think that BS flag is right on.. they may say this, but how could it possibly be true? i have never heard of a situation where someone can push through some sort of legilsation because half the potential pool of voters (measured how?) didnt vote against it? if they say half must vote for it (again, half of what) thats a different animal. i'm in BV, but per previous suggestion I'm happy to right to diciccio

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thor must be failing -

Business Improvement Districts are created this way, believe it or not.

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I called Dicicco and plainly asked him this question. I said "if three votes are given, and two votes say no/one votes say yes, does this thing get passed". After stuttering for a bit I was told "no".

If you ask me they are trying to make it look like its a done deal.

I think I've got something from the enacting legislation to shut this thing down-or at least slow it for a bit. Their own guidelines make this an illegal proposition. But we really should mobilize some type of campaign.

Maybe a gathering is in order to try to put all of our ideas and resources in and see what it amounts to???

Well, I wrote to DiCicco and his aide Brian Abernathy who I have dealt with often. I didn't bother writing to QVNA because I doubt that matters at all since "they" are the ones who put this together in the first place. I have not yet filed a written objection as I was never given the information as to how to formally object to the legislation (never receiver "the letter" never got a response to my email to QVNA, etc).

I wrote to the City Council Chief Clerk, as instructed in the mailing, and to DiCicco and to Jim Kenney (whose wife is originally from Queen Village) and to Mayor Nutter and to all of the members of the City Council L&I committee as many of them are Council at Large and answer to all voters, not just a district. It may not help but it can't hurt and it didn't hurt me to have the satisfaction of venting ten times over.

I didn't bother writing to QVNA, their minds are made up.

Has anyone who sent an objection to the councilman heard a response yet?