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Old 12-14-2004, 12:07 PM
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http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/pname3.htm
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Below South Street, along Delaware River to the vicinity of 8th and Carpenter Streets.
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Between 6th and 11th Streets, South Street to Washington Avenue.
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The boundaries of Queen Village, as set by the Federal Government as "The National Southwark Historic District" are: From the Delaware River to the East side of 6th St. and From and Including the South side of Lombard St. to the North side of Washington Ave.
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I have lived at 13th and South for 6 years. But where do I live? I usually say Center City, but I am on the south side of South St, does that mean I am in South Philly, Bella Vista, Southwark, ect???
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I believe that you are in Hawethorne.
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:40 PM
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I have lived at 13th and South for 6 years. But where do I live? I usually say Center City, but I am on the south side of South St, does that mean I am in South Philly, Bella Vista, Southwark, ect???
Yes, you're technically in south Philly, most likely Hawthorne..

I think 11th Street becomes a bit of a neighborhood "dividing line" south of Fitzwater/Bainbridge, where it is a wide avenue... that seems to be Bella Vista versus Hawthorn - but along south, there's an undefined feel..

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Default Southwark District

Dear Dave:
With respect to the federal to the federal designation of the "National Southwark Historic District"-could you provide a link or written proof to its Federal status? I have never seen anything but the city's designation, which lends Southwark's name to the area encompassing "West of Pennsport from Mifflin Street to Washington Avenue, 4th to 8th Streets", while Queens Village Neighbor's Association states that Queen's Village Boundaries are "Lombard Street to Washington Avenue, the Delaware River to the east side of Sixth Street"-meanwhile the "Philadelphia Almanac and Citizens' Manual" states that Queen Village is "Below South Street, along Delaware River to the vicinity of 8th and Carpenter Streets". Thanks!
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You can obtain that information from the Queen Village Neighbors Association at www.qvna.org
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Dear Dave:
With respect to the federal to the federal designation of the "National Southwark Historic District"-could you provide a link or written proof to its Federal status? I have never seen anything but the city's designation, which lends Southwark's name to the area encompassing "West of Pennsport from Mifflin Street to Washington Avenue, 4th to 8th Streets", while Queens Village Neighbor's Association states that Queen's Village Boundaries are "Lombard Street to Washington Avenue, the Delaware River to the east side of Sixth Street"-meanwhile the "Philadelphia Almanac and Citizens' Manual" states that Queen Village is "Below South Street, along Delaware River to the vicinity of 8th and Carpenter Streets". Thanks!
I don't put alot of faith in the accuracy of a publication which lists a boundary as "the vicinity of". Boundaries are not vague concepts. I believe the government/QVNA borders are correct.
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Here's the authoritative source listing all Philadelphia districts on the National Register of Historic Places:

http://www.nationalregisterofhistori...districts.html

It's not clear where the southern boundary shifts from Catherine St to Washington Ave.

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Southwark District ***
(added 1972 - Philadelphia County - #72001172)
Also known as See Also:Gloria Dei (Old Swedes') Church National Historic S
Bounded by Delaware, Washington Aves., 5th, Lombard, Front, and Catherine Sts., Philadelphia
(1250 acres, 600 buildings)

Historic Significance:
Architecture/Engineering

Architect,*builder,*or*engineer:
Multiple

Architectural Style:
No Style Listed

Area of Significance:
Architecture

Period of Significance:
1700-1749, 1750-1799, 1800-1824, 1825-1849

Owner:
Private

Historic Function:
Commerce/Trade, Domestic, Religion

Current Function:
Commerce/Trade, Domestic, Religion

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South Front Street Historic District **
(added 1972 - Philadelphia County - #72001171)
Also known as Southwark:See Also:Irish,Nathaniel,House;Moore,Capt.Thomas,H
700--712 S. Front St., W side Bainbridge St. to Kenilworth St., Philadelphia
(99 acres, 7 buildings)

Historic Significance:
Architecture/Engineering

Architect,*builder,*or*engineer:
Smith,Samuel, Irish,Nathaniel

Architectural Style:
No Style Listed

Area of Significance:
Architecture

Period of Significance:
1700-1749, 1750-1799

Owner:
Private , Local Gov't

Historic Function:
Commerce/Trade, Domestic

Historic Sub-function:
Restaurant, Single Dwelling2

Current Function:
Domestic, Vacant/Not In Use

Current Sub-function:
Single Dwelling2
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A little further googling:

http://www.urbanblight.org/resources...ional_His.html

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§14-2008. Southwark National Historic District. [495]



(1) Legislative Findings. The Council finds that:

(a) The Southwark National Historic District which has been designated as historical and placed on the National Register of Historic Places on the 19th of May 1972 in accordance with the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966, as amended, is an important and integral part of the historic and aesthetic environment of Philadelphia; and

(b) The people of Philadelphia have a right to have this aspect of their historic and aesthetic environment protected under Article I, Section 27 of the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania; and

(c) The Federal government and the government of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania have both recognized the need to control the erection and maintenance of outdoor advertising signs in areas adjacent to the interstate system of highways; and

(d) A major interstate highway lies near the Southwark National Historic District; and

(e) It is hereby declared that the provisions of subsection (3) are needed to alleviate the adverse environmental effect and adverse effect on the aesthetic environment of the construction of this interstate highway adjacent to the Southwark National Historic District.

(2) Definitions. In this Section the following definitions apply:

(a) Southwark National Historic District. Beginning at the southwest corner of Front and Lombard streets and continuing south along the west side of Front street to Catherine street; thence east on Catherine to the rear property lines of the houses on the east side of Front street (from Catherine to Queen), thence south along these property lines to the rear property lines of the houses on the north side of Queen street; thence extending along these lines east to Delaware avenue; thence south along Delaware avenue to Washington avenue; thence west along Washington avenue to the Northwest corner of 5th street and Washington avenue; thence north along the west side of 5th street (including all those buildings located on the west side of 5th street) to the southwest corner of 5th and Lombard; thence east along the south of Lombard street (including all those buildings or the south side of Lombard street) to the northwest corner of Front and Lombard streets, the place of beginning, being that area which is designated as an historical area on the National Register of Historic Places on the 19th of May, 1972.

(3) Sign Controls. No person shall erect or maintain any Animated or Flashing Sign, as defined in § 14-102(49)(a), Free-Standing Sign, as defined in § 14-102(49)(b), Portable Sign, as defined in § 14-102(49)(f), Revolving Sign, as defined in § 14-102(49)(i), or Roof Sign, as defined in § 14-102(49)(j), within the Southwark National Historic District.
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