It seems you enjoy taking things out of context?

It is impossible for South Street to become just like GTown. Quite simple, not enough space.

That being said, what I mean is the style and class GTown has. The crime is a result to GTowns massive population in and around the area, and moreover D.C. has always had trouble combatting crime.

We as Philadelphians dont want to bring on storms of traffic into the corridor, just want it to be a more desirable location for tourists which brings revenue and helps our businesses survive and flourish.

To attract such businesses and tourists we need to make the move to a classier audicence, ie-GTOWN.

No one here was speaking about crime, population, etc... These are other elements which are not a part of this conversation.

1-Clean the Streets up
2-Add Trees
3-Add nice attractive lighting and curb appeal
4-Results in a few more nice restaurants
5-A few more nice shops

This all adds to the neighboorhod and would be great for our out of towners coming to visit instead of the rift rafty low segments we have now. I believe the 2nd to 3rd Block is great and a great start. So is the Starbucks, and I believe the Wholefoods area is getting built up nicely.

No, this wont be a G-Town, and I think you knew what i meant when i used GTown and Manyunk as an example.

Classier audience? There are a few places in Philadelphia where you can find classier audiences--Rittenhouse, Wash West, among others. There are people who will fight you tooth and nail to preserve the funky core of South Street. That is what made it, and keeps it, a tourist destination.

How many 'pretty' places do we need anyway?





You do realize that for a relatively tiny area, BV/QV is host to a number of good to outstanding restaurants. That certainly isn't the problem here.

You have done this twice now--it's "riff raff", not rift raft.

Manayunk is not exactly the correct example to bring in here. The people on that forum are usually in a lather over the bars and pubs and college and just past college-aged creating a ruckus, and too many empty storefronts, and no supermarket! G-town can also reference Germantown here.

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can we just make a sticky called "idealists vs. Realists" or "opine vs. Factoids"?

Neighbors are not evil in their mentality, but ignorance is not golden.

We want "g-town" but " g-town is impossible".

They want store to survive yet "us philadelphians don't want the onslaught of traffic".

Yada yada yada...these same people think that if a street project happens it will be over by "tourist season" if started in february. Meanwhile, they dont have the foresight to:

-Search the umpteen other threads anout south street improvements
-use a thing called google
- or look at the publicly available RFP which stars a minimum of a month per block- which would put the project well past tourist season under even the best conditions.

I also love the contrition towards businesses by saying " theyve been warned".

Well, youve been warned for decades that this is the way south street will always be, so you can get used to it.

I hope you lose ypur livelyhood, only so you realize youe own flip nature towards others' jobs.

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DISCLAIMER: Alesis is a South Street business owner
(keep that in mind when reading his or her responses)

Hey Newbie, welcome. You'll just have to get used to alesis' wrath if you suggest doing anything to improve South Street. Some people don't think you have the right to express your opinions here if they differ from theirs. Most posters, however are more disposed to simply engage in a conversation rather than an assault. But then, again, the 'discourse' is part of the experience that makes this blog a lively one.

Like you, I would welcome a shopping district that is similar to Georgetown's retail mix. Don't worry, alesis has been snipping at me for a while now, similarly putting me down, because it's my opinion that South Street could still improve more than it has over the past several years.

It's just that different posters have different opinions and views of what they would like to see in their neighborhoods. It's my opinion that South Street can grow in a newer positive direction that still includes retaining some of the old character that some posters are eager to preserve.

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If you can't serve as a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

LOL... Georgetown? Who would even want it to look like that?

There are people who actually LIKE South Street the way it is now??!?!??!

I do.

as much as i have made a career bemoaning the loss of the South Street I knew when I first moved to the strip in 1981, the fact is I'd rather have South Street the way it is now than a sea of high-end chain(esque) clothing stores, boutiques and such ...

Living off a strip such as this: http://www.georgetowndc.com/ does not excite me in the least.

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When you're finished "fixing" South Street, maybe you could turn your attention to the Italian Market. It's time to get rid of all those venders and put in a nice supermarket that caters to a more educated well dressed person.

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THE STARBUCKS IS A GREAT START?!?!



That statement alone tells me all I need to know ....

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