No, it was less; however, I coiped and pasted what I referenced from the police blotter when a certain someone said there was absolutely no proof that residents from the projects conducted in criminal behavior.

Since you seem to know sooo much about life in the projects it was rather idiotic to make such a statement to begin with, so spare the ballaz mockery-I don't think our older neighbors that got beaten up found them funny.

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I don't claim to know much about life in the projects, but live next door and, aside from the isolated assaults around that specific time which were instigated by two older kids (one of whom didn't even live at RCA), the Ballaz were a bunch of snot-nosed kids with too much time on their hands. Lets not get hysterical where it's not needed. I find the double murder that happened at 5th and Montrose to be far more disturbing that any of the punk behavior the Ballaz were responsible for. Yeah, some people got beat-up. That sucks. But there is far more serious (and real) gang activity going on in other parts of town.

Notice I was polite and said 'hysterical' instead of 'idiotic.' Try it some time, you might like it.

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What's wrong 'hysterical' Eddy, can't take your own medicine?

Here's you:

This was in the same posting where you said:
Which is equivalent to others' IDIOTIC(a word I learned from you) assertions, which is why I had to repeat several police blotters to say that yes-we do have a "freakin' clue" that crime is committed by residents of los projectos.

Notice how I used facts obtained from local publications instead of lanquid assertions-you should try it sometime.

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Peter Cetera:
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I actually learned in the suburbs not to leave valuables in my car. Unless your neighbors are from rural kansas I hope they learn a lesson about how fast anyone can be inside your car if they want to be. I just watched AAA open a guys car door in 10 seconds and that would be 2 seconds if he didn't care about your window.

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Well, although you obviously have the patience to troll through all of my postings, I don't, so I'm going to guess that was in response to one of those all too common posts after someone gets mugged where one of our neighbors, who has no details of the incident, takes it upon themselves to start talking about "THOSE" people in RCA of the "population of criminals" in the projects, or wonder why all "those" people can't all just go away, or better yet be sent away to the same neighborhood somewhere, as long as it's not here in OUR beautiful QV.

Of course we know that crimes have been perpetrated by some residents of RCA (or their friends who come here from other parts of the city), but it just seems silly to keep referencing a 4 year-old (3 year-old?) incident involving a bunch of kids as an indication how horrible things have supposedly become.

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Didn't have to "troll"-its very easy to remember what someone stated a few days ago.

As far as past incidents-you're right, its not like the same kids are living in the same projects with the same inept parents and still causing more problems in our neighborhood Guess the ballaz found baby jesus while watching creflo dollar on their flat screen tvs.

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Peter Cetera:
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The Ballaz were more serious than you describe, but I agree they have been broken up and not much of a factor in the last couple of years.

They affected many more people with their actions, than the double homicide you mention. Many more people are victims of lessor crimes than murder, especially in the neighborhood of this topic. You are more likely to have your car broken into than be shot and killed.

Your right, there is more serious gang activity in other parts of town, but the people (in this topic) are more concerned with where they live and/or work. So you can't compare the QV/BV area with a neighborhood in North or Southwest Philadelphia.

Very well said.

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Peter Cetera:
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Yes, kids like the Ballaz were definitely a quality of life issue. I was just responding to Alesis yet again mentioning the boxing glove incidents as an example of the horrible crime we have to put up with in QV. It's disingenuous on two counts. One, it happened a long time ago, and two the implication of listing a bunch of police blotter items from who knows what span of time implies that incidents like the ones mentioned happen all the time. They don't. Most of the time QV is a pretty tame neighborhood. There were a number of serious incidents recently, the cops made some arrests and now it's quiet again. That's the pattern I've seen over and over. If anything this area has gotten better.

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The 5th street ballazas grafitti is still on the wall on the 4th st side of the projects. Its been there about 5 years now. Cant they get that removed?

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