Does anyone know if and any bars ever applied and were granted the smoking variance in CC and nearby? Maybe I missed this discussion previously, but it seems like no one talks about it anymore.

There were some granted, supposedly. I say "supposedly" because I know some owners that say they were granted the variance and allow smoking, and I also know some that have designated rooms were smoking is permitted-but they are not legally allowed to smoke since they serve a percentage of food.

At this moment, I am hesitant to name any of these places since bastions of righteousness wish to bust places they don't even patronize. If someone visits a place and is gravely offended by smoke they have every right to file a complaint, but I'm not going to publicly display the info for a witch hunt.

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good idea, would hate to ruin it for everyone
it sure would be nice if there was an official list somewhere to reference

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Howard Eskin had a list of smoke free places on his website. But people couldn't be bothered to check that and make informed choices, hence the ban.

Ok Alesis - PM me and tell me where we can smoke.......I won't tell

It doesn't surprise me to see this in a South Philly thread. Get fat and smoke till the cancer pours out of your orifices land.

Went to The Dive recently. Left instantly when all that trash started to burn up and I ain't talkin' paper. The waver bull$h!t is such a lame balancing act of pleasing both new and old Philadelphia.

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Wow, tell us how you really feel.

Sorry you were so traumatized about the dive-too bad there aren't any other bars to go to in "New Philadelphia"(wasn't that in Buck Rogers?).

I don't know if you know this or not, but skirting a smoking ban is not exactly a Philadelphia issue-anywhere that there is a smoking ban, there's bars still doing it. New York. Ireland. England. Philadelphia. WhoopyDing.

I will, however, succumb to your rationale. If smoking, eating, and drinking cause us to be called the "cancer pours out of your orifices land", then what is France? And why do they have a longer lifespan than us when they celebrate the same vices rather than make drunken diatribes about them on phillyblog?

It doesn't matter anyhow-the state house passed a law outlawing smoking at all bars, so the Philadelphia waivers will be thrown out soon enough.

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You are in no way obligated to sit in a bar that wafts second-hand smoke in your direction. There are plenty of non-smoking bars for you types.

WQstr,
On a serious note, The Dive has to have an exemption-they were just inspected recently, but they were not cited for any smoking related offenses.

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Peter Cetera:
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Yeah, no kidding. I was at a bar last weekend, and not only did I have to watch people smoke, but they were drinking, too. And eating fried foods! God, it was disgusting. When will people learn to be as healthy as me and you?