I think we should start a new trend on phillyblog.
Hubman, one of our dear neighbors, needs their business space rented at 701 S. 9th Street. We should help them best decide what should go in, so we can properly find a common ground as to what goes into their space, as hubman has requested since they own the space.

If they conducted an openhouse on April 1st, we could tell all of our business associates to help them get the place rented! With the efforts they have ask of us, surely a new tenant is eminent!!!!

Here's the information to the rental:
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/off/290474381.html

Here's the ad on February 21st, way before they so innocently asked for our humble opinon: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/off/282428893.html

Of course, hubman can provide you with all of the itsy bitsy corporate details on the prop. that I don't know about-but let's help him out as a community!

Thanks for keeping our neighborhood alive Joel! We really appreciate the hubman bringing such amazing businesses! Only someone so aptly named "hubman" can be the hub of the community!

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Peter Cetera:
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I think we should start a new trend on phillyblog where we lobby to get rude, self-righteous people like yourself banned.

Or perhaps we can just have the subtitle switched from Water Ice Vendor to ArseMaster to prevent new folks from being confused or frightened from the mostly hostile and unwarranted stimulating conversation created by our dear fellow blogger.

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I'm trying to get a vacancy filled, and all you guys do is cast aspersions.

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Peter Cetera:
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Say things I might regret
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I appreciate all the kind thoughts and words of support. We will rent the space to someone who will add some value to the neighborhood and bid a fond adieu to Satya (which will continue online). There is already solid interest from two local people one an architect who works locally and the other a retailer of sporting wear. I will keep you posted.

I did consider a cheese shop but cannot get the Monty Python routine to stop playing in my head whenever I think about that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDat9zdw7Gs

Well, when we start out with making suggestions for what we would like to see, you go off on a tirade about how local residents, through their neighborhood associations, should have no say in what goes on comercially within their neighborhoods. So, if you really want to get a vacancy filled and are asking for our input, and we make suggestions (as in a cheese shop/deli) don't respond by telling us that what we want as individuals is inane, parochial, yuppified, etc. (as you did in reference to the Pad Thai space that 'could have been' a cheese shop/deli but not for QVNA)

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If you can't serve as a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

I didn't ask for your input, someone else did in another thread. In this thread I showed that a place was open, and suggested that if an openhouse occured, aspiring business people could get a feel for the place and might be enticed to start something at the location.

You're the one who claims some form of allegiance to qvna, so I tell you what mistakes their board has made in the past that resulted in your unquenched thirst for animal flesh and cultured milk products.

I didn't call a meat and cheese shop yuppified-last time I checked, I eat meat and cheese. Just more made up diatribes on your end-I did say in another thread that I went to the apple store, crate and barrel, etc. at KOP, so I don't think I'd have a leg to stand on in the yuppy argument.

I never called your opinions "parochial", but I have suggested that your narrow view has you making up stuff for your own arguments-such as when you insisted that south street could learn a thing or two from fabric row and their streetcleaners, new businesses, etc. when the reality is that they are hired by south street; according to a sshd boardmember, all of fabric row pays a whopping 24k in headhouse taxes, compared to 11k a year I pay for just one building. Additionally, the same exact cleaners are on south street everyday, just as they are on fabric row. Another made up story by you, another verifiable correction from me.

Here we go with the back yard thing again. You want to have a say in what "goes commercially in their neighborhoods"? 9th and baindbridge is in their bella vista, not "our" Queen Village. 9th and bainbridge is at least 2000 feet from the 4th and catharine proposal you live near, so I highly doubt its outcome will affect you in anyway. And the neighbors didn't buy enough hemp clothing to keep satya in business, so I doubt that whatever moves in will be too affected by you, financially or otherwise.

This sense of entitlement that a vocal minority of neighbors have is intoxicating-guess how much you are allowed to influence what goes into 9th and bainbridge. ZERO. Its c-1, so whatever moves in within reason, moves in. If it needs a use regulation permit, vern and friends at bvuca will get the opinion-not qvna...once again, who's got control issues?

I'll still keep notating everytime certain neighbors make stuff up, and cast aspersions about our commercial area. As I said in another post-please show me one thread where neighbors said "I want this type of store here and I don't want that store there", and it yielded any results. Will the landlord say, "oh, the neighbors only want a dress shop for middle aged ladies who enjoy lane bryant, so I'm not going to rent it to anyone else but a store like that, even though it will fail in a year because there is next-to-no foot traffic"? Meanwhile, I can cite various times where business groups had to fight neighbor groups, got supposedly undesirable business into the neighborhood, and now the naysayers can't live without them.

For some reason you have no problem being brutish against businesses that are not doing any harm and certainly don't live off of your money, yet you are irritated when the same introspection is placed onto your mannerisms.

btw, you seem to keep forgetting that I'm a "local resident", so I have a say as well.

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Peter Cetera:
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I would love to hear about the "supposedly undesireable businesses", but had to fight the neighborhood associations when they started, and we can't now live without. Examples?

I'm simply suggesting that if building owners sought input from or reached out to neighbors on what types of stores they may like to see and patronize in their spaces, they'd face less opposition from neighborhood associations. They may even enjoy the support of residents, much the way Red Hook did. If you want retail without residential input, go to the Gallery.

BTW, since I own property in Bella Vista, I guess I do have a voice there as well, through bvuca, so my say in what goes on at 9th and Bainbridge is not ZERO as you seem to have decided. Since you are so hung up on being the great verifier of all facts, you might want to start with your own.

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If you can't serve as a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

Wholefoods is a good one-picketers were out there protesting up until the zoning got approved-which happened despite the wishes of the neighbors, by writing a quick little law to allow it(see what a simple $1500 campaign contribution can buy by viewing the addendum 510 on sshd district controls § 14-1612).

QVNA also screwed with Gayle for quite a bit, and cost Daniel thousands in sales but holding up the liquor license. Horizons Vegan is a great restaurant, but if you read the flyers protesting its liquor license application you'd think they were trying to open a strip club. Napoli Pizza is ordered by alot of neighbors now, but were vehemently protested when they were trying to open up years ago.
Pietros was protested due to its "massive size", so was LaFourno. Pretty much any place with a liquor license was protested, except for Tori's-which cracks me up since they were the only real troublemakers for QV since they were always an after hours bar that caused problems. And, of course, QVNA is always working to screw with wawa(most recently by the transportation committee suggesting to attempt to get rid of their delivery truck area). When wawa's gone in a few years and houses populate that area, the neighbors aren't going to be too happy having to walk to 2nd and lombard or the columbus blvd. wawa for "convenience".
If you need anymore examples, just let me know.
If you call limiting business hours, and stipulating that RedHook can only sell 30% takeout the "support of residents", then gee-I guess I stand corrected. Did QVNA set up a committee to monitor RedHook's takeout sales?
Childish. You have never stated that you own property in BV, so how would I know? Its amazing that this comes up now-just like all of the other conveniences in your previous slanted arguments. How could I verify the supposed fact that you own property in BV if you never stated it? Pathetic.

And no Gladys, you do not have a voice about what goes into 9th and bainbridge, if the business person decides to do something within the confines of c-1 zoning. If a cellphone store wanted to open, you wouldn't be able to do a single thing. You don't have a say. Not one peep. Get over it.

If you want a meat and cheese shop so bad, build it. Then you'll have a say. Then I'll come by, introduce myself, eat some cheese, and help you fight off the neighbors who will hate the stinky trash, rats, and stench your store produces.

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Peter Cetera:
Sometimes I just forget
Say things I might regret
It breaks my heart to see you crying

Don't you just love when free market economics collide with liberal local politics?

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