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Old 08-20-2008, 09:49 AM
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Andrew Altman has some ethic problems.http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:29 AM
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link?

It's just the local news section, lots of news there.....the first one is kinda shocking though, an 11 years old arrested along with a 15 and a 16 years old after robbing a gun shop.
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:38 AM
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http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loca...ics_lapse.html

I don't see why this was titled as a Nutter ethics lapse. It is about a cabinet person at a previous position.

I will comment on part of it though.

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After the accusation appeared in the Washington paper The Examiner, Nutter's chief integrity officer, Joan Markman, and Philadelphia Inspector General Amy Kurland reviewed the allegations. They later wrote to Willoughby, calling them "simply unfair."

"The accusation unfairly and without basis sullies the sterling reputation of Mr. Altman," Markman and Kurland wrote.
Why exactly are they commenting on another City's ethics report and defending Altman? That stuff is before he worked here and if it needs to be handled, Altman should be handling it, not Philadelphia staff.

I agree they should advise the mayor if it is a problem, but I don't see why they are talking to anyone outside the Mayor's staff about it.
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I don't see why this was titled as a Nutter ethics lapse. It is about a cabinet person at a previous position.

I will comment on part of it though.

Why exactly are they commenting on another City's ethics report and defending Altman? That stuff is before he worked here and if it needs to be handled, Altman should be handling it, not Philadelphia staff.

I agree they should advise the mayor if it is a problem, but I don't see why they are talking to anyone outside the Mayor's staff about it.
I think the insult is because Nutter promised us a REAL CHANGE, and having people with questionable Ethical standards in High Level positions is EXACTLY NO CHANGE. More status quo....
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:58 AM
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I think the insult is because Nutter promised us a REAL CHANGE, and having people with questionable Ethical standards in High Level positions is EXACTLY NO CHANGE. More status quo....
Well, just to be fair, that report came out less than a month ago so it isn't like anyone knew about it.

I do have issue with other city officials using tax payer money to actively defend Altman against a previous employer.
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How exactly did DC's ethics board do an investigation without talking to either of the two people involved? What's up with that?

I'm kinda leaning towards "not guilty" here. Just the fact that Altman and the consultant weren't interviewed makes it seem like a farce.
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I kinda doubt it's possible to run a major development agency anywhere and not get accused of something along the way. doesn't make you guilty.

it sounds like a bogus claim by someone who didn't like him or lost a bid.
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It also strikes me as an isolated incident, not an example of "questionable ethical standards."

If this is Altman's one lapse, (1) it's a minor one, sorta like not balancing your checkbook before writing a check, and (2) that still leaves him head and shoulders above the run-of-the-mill Philly pol, who probably has a reserved spot in the confessional line every Sunday.
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I don't see why this was titled as a Nutter ethics lapse.
b/c newdealdem is a partisan.
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:47 PM
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This is the actual link to the story;

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/loca...ics_lapse.html

I agree with others that since this just came out Nutter was unaware of the allegations when he appointed Altman.

I disagree that it is impossible to run a government agency and not be ethical. When you are involved and someone you were once a partner with comes with a contract request you recuse yourself from the process.
1- Altman not only did not do that, he
2- paid them without requiring them to provide proper documentation of the services they billed for.
Flags of ethical morality started up the pole on the first incident
then waved in the wind with the second. This could be a one-time mistake or a flaw in character.
Whether Nutter can or should remove Altman might depend on whether the investigation results in charges.
But hopefully our Mayor will change his positioning so that he must report to a higher authority before any decisions coming through him are finalized.
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