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Old 03-12-2008, 10:09 AM
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Default When will the pledging on PBS stop???

It seems as if every PBS channel is participating, to no avail, in some bizarre pledge drive, showing every infomercial-esque, big-stadium yanni-style performance they can dig up.......it seems to be a bit excessive.......it's been two weeks now.......every night, I think I'm about to watch some quality programming, them here comes suze orman, ......she scares me!
Then there's "You: on a diet, to change your life and make a million bucks before you're 60", "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", and the bald-headed guy teaching some pseudo- zen, like, "Thinking of what you want will get you what you need"..........just make it stop!

These kinds of things used to be every 3 months or every season.......now it seems that fundraising is dominating their programing entirely every month to no end! Is PBS in trouble........or just plain desperate? Just make it stop!

interesting articles of note on topic:
http://www.current.org/funding/funding0220pledge.html
http://www.current.org/funding/funding0202pledge.html

and the worries that PBS has gone commercial:
http://www.commercialalert.org/blog/..._commer_1.html

and Seinfeld
http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/ThePledgeDrive.html
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:26 AM
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WHYY must have raised its CEO salary again--hence the need to run more pledge drives.


After I learned what the CEO makes, I stopped contributing.


I used to do volunteer work at the San Antonio PBS station that was actually quite popular... KLRN. There's 4 pledge drives during the programming year, one of them is call-in only with short breaks during programming for pre-produced commercials.

2 of them are guest/host format, with call-in pledge drives.


However, the most fun pledge drive KLRN has--and people actually tune in to this--is KLRN's Annual Auction pledge drive... where the station turns into a TV version of eBay for about 4 hours a day during a two week period in the summer.

KLRN Auctions are done with audience-participation, where local viewers and employer sponsors donate volunteers to work at the station. Anybody out there can participate and do whatever jobs on the TV studio that are needed... such as:

- Answering phones to accept bids [about 50 people needed]
- Runners [they take bid slips to the auction boards]
- Markers [these people stand up at the auction boards and update them, just like an old-fashioned stock market]

Auction volunteers can be any age, and are not paid. You typically get a free t-shirt which you need to wear while you're on TV.

In addition to the marker boards, TV viewers can also place bids on donated items through KLRN's website. The bids can be anything from consumer goods, restaurant meals, sports/theater and concert tickets, locally-produced art, books, Harley-Davidson motorcycles, whatever you can think of. Everything sold at auction is donated to the station by local companies [even houses], the station uses the proceeds to pay their operating costs. I've sold some really cool baseball memorabilia on KLRN. Even with eBay around, the TV auction hasn't waned in popularity since most of the wares sold on TV are high-end, the auction price is heavily discounted, and it's all local.

You get to be on TV for hours on end with your friends, you get free snacks while you're working on the set and it's loads of fun. Not to mention, the auction is popular with the viewing audience. KLRN has been doing this since the 1970s.


KLRN's website: www.klrn.org
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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sounds like way better fare than the prepackaged filler we get in Philly....and aren't we supposed to be a key market?

I was surprised to see WYBE getting in on the act as of late. They are not as "on the fringe" independent as they used to be on-air, but I'm aware of a new format change in the works for them, including a name-change......

WHYY is painful to watch during the fund-raising drive.....the only time i see that KLRN-type fundraising spirit East spoke of is when they offer one of their local specials they produce themselves.....then it doesn't seem so droll..........and Ed Cunningham can sell ANYTHING with that voice

NJN, as valuable as their programming and attention to local Jersey issues is, has been using uninspiring prepackaged pledge programming, and I seldom see their staff doing any creative takes on pledging to make it more "fun", unfortunately

I'm coming up with new monikers for PBS:
"pledging beyond sanity", "programmers binging stupidity", "pure bleep bleep"........
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what I read a female would do to any trollop if they try to carouse with our new President:

"Proverbs 26:3
A whip for the horse, a halter for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools!"
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You mean you don't want the 2 Lidia books for $150????????? It does also include some photocopied menus from the commercial!!!!!
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WHYY must have raised its CEO salary again--hence the need to run more pledge drives.

After I learned what the CEO makes, I stopped contributing.
It's definitely disheartening to find out that 100% of your contribution could be said to pay for some stuffed shirt's goofy perks/benefits. I have similar problems with donating to my Alma Mater...

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However, the most fun pledge drive KLRN has--and people actually tune in to this--is KLRN's Annual Auction pledge drive... where the station turns into a TV version of eBay for about 4 hours a day during a two week period in the summer.

KLRN Auctions are done with audience-participation, where local viewers and employer sponsors donate volunteers to work at the station. Anybody out there can participate and do whatever jobs on the TV studio that are needed... such as:

- Answering phones to accept bids [about 50 people needed]
- Runners [they take bid slips to the auction boards]
- Markers [these people stand up at the auction boards and update them, just like an old-fashioned stock market]

Auction volunteers can be any age, and are not paid. You typically get a free t-shirt which you need to wear while you're on TV.

In addition to the marker boards, TV viewers can also place bids on donated items through KLRN's website. The bids can be anything from consumer goods, restaurant meals, sports/theater and concert tickets, locally-produced art, books, Harley-Davidson motorcycles, whatever you can think of. Everything sold at auction is donated to the station by local companies [even houses], the station uses the proceeds to pay their operating costs. I've sold some really cool baseball memorabilia on KLRN. Even with eBay around, the TV auction hasn't waned in popularity since most of the wares sold on TV are high-end, the auction price is heavily discounted, and it's all local.

You get to be on TV for hours on end with your friends, you get free snacks while you're working on the set and it's loads of fun. Not to mention, the auction is popular with the viewing audience. KLRN has been doing this since the 1970s.
Sounds exactly like what WGBH Boston has been doing, for probably the same period of time. I actually kind of miss it here. It was always in late spring/early summer, and for me, became sort of a sign that summer was coming. It was genuinely entertaining, too, believe it or not.

I definitely don't understand why PBS stations everywhere think that anyone WANTS to see these awful infomercials and yanni-lookalike concerts instead of the usual programming. I mean, NOVA, or some cheeseball stereotypical "Irish" concert "special" that sounds like the soundtrack to Titanic. How is there even any discussion?

Only good thing about it is, it makes me turn the TV off and do other things...
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:31 AM
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Default KLRN's Auction is a model for how Public Broadcasting can pay its bills

Trust me... KLRN's Auction is awesome. It is one of the most-watched perennial programs that's produced locally.


Remember, it's public broadcasting, so donations are all tax write-offs at cost value of the items by the participating businesses.



In the Philadelphia area, this is some small samples of the stuff you could EASILY set up for a PBS-auction and get local businesses to contribute:


Tickets:

10-pack no-expiry tickets to the Philadelphia Museum of Art, includes parking! Love the Art Museum, but the tickets are too pricey for your budget? Not anymore! For $10 opening bid, you can get 10 tickets to the Art Museum you can use anytime you want, and they NEVER EXPIRE! Use them when you're 7, or when you're 70. Includes parking!!!

ONE WHOLE ROW is yours at a Philadelphia Flyers game! The winning bidder will win one entire row of seats to the Philadelphia Flyers (opening bid $200) at any advance-notice pre-playoff home game of their choice.

100 Eagles tickets -- sold on varying days in groups of 2 or 4 (opening bid for the INSANELY low price of $100)

Love Steve Star? Dinner for 2 at the Mid town Conti, includes champagne. Yours for $15.

Love Harleys? Get a low-rider! Opening bids start at $750.

It's crazy, it's insane... it's a HOUSE. A HOUSE in Manayunk! It's got a garage! It's only $75,000 (opening bid)!!! Can you believe it?! [KLRN auctions big ticket items over the course of several days to keep viewers attention spans... so the house auction would stay open for the entire 2 weeks]. While the house is being discussed, the shot on screen pans across the interior and exterior.


Goods:

- Appliance specials from Airs - always wanted a Melee dishwasher or a Sub-Zero fridge? Now's your chance! Auction reserve includes installation fee. Call now!!!

- Local artist Mr. X has donated matte paintings of Philadelphia, circa 1850. Bids open at $30.



That is just a tiny fraction of the stuff that you could put on TV. KLRN auctions attract a huge viewership because they use smart marketing and the auctions move quickly on the small-ticket items and on the very popular items they milk the auction to keep viewership high and bids coming in.

While the auction is going on, the station does cut back into limited programming, but usually it's historical local documentaries.


For example, one year I worked the auction, I was on the set updating bids and while I had the marker boards reversed [I was busy updating the board], they were running segments from a local program covering San Antonio during the boomtown years, and the Joskey's Department Store.

I flipped the board back to face the camera, and the items were all antiques that were recovered from Joskey's, mostly curios.

The phone banks got swamped with calls from little old ladies who remember Joskey's (I was 10y/o when the store closed) and were bidding like crazy on anything they put up on the screen for bid.



Why can't WHYY learn from others?
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And this is why you should donate to PACCA, not PETA:

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Hell I won't even consider donating to WHYY until I can get their darn signal back in .... I was able to get their HD stations clear as a bell (after some antenna wrangling) until around November when it went away and my hours of antenna wrangling was to no avail.

Gimmie a signal and I think about giving you some dough.

Also other than their news NJN produces almost squat for local programming (although I think the same can be said for WHYY.) All the local stuff they have was paid for by mostly State agencies. The Black Gold: NJ Strippers sea bass doc was from Dept of Ag under fisheries, Black Bear was their Dept of Environmental Protection, Highlands doc NJ DEP again so all your donations are mostly going to news and funding their low tier PBS packages meaning that they only get stuff weeks after it's been aired on WHYY.

Also friggin NJN's HD channel is only on from 8 to 11 at night and they show the same shows for a whole week .... ahhhhh so if it's Ken Burns the War Episode 3 then every freaking night Monday to Sunday at the same time that episode of that show plays and the same for the rest of the hours same show same episode.

I can get your signal NJN but put HD programing on 24/7 and at least mix up the episodes a bit I mean your already showing it a month or two behind ever other PBS station.
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They're Preparing for Budget Cuts

So what are these salaries we're talking about? Anyone have figures?
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Here is my source: http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.co...y-and-npr.html


These figures are 8 years old... so it's obvious that they make even more than this now.

Laura Walker Pres. & CEO WNYC, New York $361,119
W. Marrazzo Pres. & CEO WHYY, Philadelphia* $314,415
H. Becton, Jr. Pres. & GM WGBH, Boston* $286,087
George Miles Pres. & CEO WQED, Pittsburgh* $234,727
Mary Bitterman Pres. & CEO KQED, San Fran.* $219,062
William Kling President Minn. Pub. Radio $185,063
Maynard Orme Pres. & CEO Oregon Pub. Broad.* $177,952


That is WAY beyond excessive for a public federally subsidized non profit organization. I could swallow 150-thousand, but not twice that figure.

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And this is why you should donate to PACCA, not PETA:

In September, PETA made headlines in Vermont and across the nation for asking
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