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Old 05-02-2008, 03:17 PM
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The funniest bit about this... is that the geezer against the development--his name is Dick Lush. Sorry I can't take that objection seriously coming from a Dick Lush.

Tim is 100% spot on. The southern end of Society Hill was almost completely demolished in the middle of last century and rebuilt for revitalization.

There is still an invisible line where nothing erected after 1950 can really be considered historic today unless the structure was part of some specific and important social event or holds an overwhelming architectural significance.


Unless you can find some dead Indians under the soil in this empty lot and some arrowheads--you got nothing.


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I won't mention a name.... but someone broke down and wept at the first city council hearing.

There is still one potential hurdle, and that is the Historic Commission. They have yet to chime in....although my opinion is they should have no standing. There is no building there and much of what surrounds that site is not historic.....like the late 70's/early 80's condos and the CVS just to name a few. Quite frankly, most of that end of Society Hill from Lombard to Spruce between Front and Second is NOT Historical.
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Substitute the word "aesthetic" for "historic" and you could have an argument. But aesthetics can be endlessly debated to the point where it can not prevail in an argument. Personally, I find Stamper Square neither aesthetically pleasing nor displeasing. It looks sort of middle-of-the-road to me. You could plop it down anywhere in the city or the suburbs and it would have the same feel.

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The funniest bit about this... is that the geezer against the development--his name is Dick Lush. Sorry I can't take that objection seriously coming from a Dick Lush.
Kinda brings things full circle what with Society Hill being largely a creation of Mayor Martini Dick.
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Substitute the word "aesthetic" for "historic" and you could have an argument. But aesthetics can be endlessly debated to the point where it can not prevail in an argument. Personally, I find Stamper Square neither aesthetically pleasing nor displeasing. It looks sort of middle-of-the-road to me. You could plop it down anywhere in the city or the suburbs and it would have the same feel.

It reminds me of the Holiday Inn on 4th and Arch...
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It reminds me of the Holiday Inn on 4th and Arch...
Me thinks you might be exaggerating a bit.

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Just the curtains and the red bricks...
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Just the curtains and the red bricks...

There's no red brick on the HI on the 4th St side. I don't think there's any brick at all. It looks like concrete and some sort of brown siding around the windows. These two projects are poles apart.
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Yeah, i'm really not following how you can historically preserve a hole in the ground.

Lush said that the zoning created the highest property values in the city. That's garbage. The location and the artificially restricted supply of housing are what make the property values so high.

It's the same thing in metro Boston and most of California. There's an intense fear of anything that isn't detached single-family. The density is ridiculously low for the demand so you wind up with outrageous prices.
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Yeah, i'm really not following how you can historically preserve a hole in the ground.
Don't you get it silly...its historical because it has always been a hole in the ground! hehehe
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