Everyone forgot about this map:

I certainly empathize with your situation, but many are complaining about trucks when they moved right next to blocks of G-2 and L-4 zoned industrial parcels. There is nothing "illegal" about receiving or distributing shipments at any hour by these properly zoned businesses.

The fact that the business is "a place that has 6 employees ( 4 don't even live in this state)" is about as disingenuous as the adverse argument of "use the bus". Both inane arguments are specific to the whims of the debater rather than reality 101. 6 employees supply chicken to 10's of thousands of customers. Meanwhile, if anyone wants to figure out a way for us to give up a car without forcing my wife to take a 1 hour train-then-bus commute, and then walk three miles down a major highway instead of driving for 20minutes each way, I'd love to hear it from the treehuggers union.

I know. Give up cars. Give up chicken. Hell, let's also give up money because I have always thought that the U.S. Mint in Old City looks atrocious.

OK, let's be sensible. I know we need money, chicken, cars, trucks, and factories. I just don't want them near me. I know we are a city of 1.6 million but there's no reason we can't move all of that stuff away from me since I moved into an area that has and will always be zoned industrial/commercial, but now its hip partly because of me, and darnit I want to have my cake and eat it too, and marsha marsha marsha, blah, blah, blah.

Pssst...don't ever go to the Meat Packing District in New York, because you will be shocked to find out that next to the apple stores and Steven Starr restaurants-yes, Wholesale Meat Packing does still take place in droves. And blood and bones are abound. And they drives trucks all night and day.

Both sides have gotten a little wacky in their arguments. They should just put up no parking signs near the corners where trucks tend to scrape and hit cars upon in-turns. There is no reason to get rid of all parking. If residents are so inflamed, they should go to their councilman and ask for signs to prohibit trucks from going down the street. Since its so close to G-2 land I guarantee that it won't happen, but it would be a good bargaining chip to come towards a compromise.

The G2 is on Callowhill and not a problem being separated by the raised Vine st expressway. All the L4 in the area huge condo and apartment buildings such as Bridgeview, Chocolate Works, Penn's View, 509 Vine and York Square. By the way there has been signs that say no truck parking from 6pm to 6am, matter of fact there are 4 of them in one block. This started off as a couple of trucks a week and has grown into a couple a night. A traffic engineer has already told council that Vine St is not vital or designed to hold tractor trailers because of Callowhill st 2 blocks away. The comparison to the Meat Packing District in NYC was moronic, the area of Old City this is situated in only has or had on place that dealt with meat or poultry.

The G2 is on Callowhill and not a problem being separated by the raised Vine st expressway. All the L4 in the area huge condo buildings such as Bridgeview, Chocolate Works, Penn's View, 509 Vine and York Square. By the way there has been signs that say no truck parking from 6pm to 6am, matter of fact there are 4 of them in one block. This started off as a couple of trucks a week and has grown into a couple a night. A traffic engineer has already told council that Vine St is not vital or designed to hold tractor trailers because of Callowhill st 2 blocks away. The comparison to the Meat Packing District in NYC was moronic, the area of Old City this is situated in only has or had on place that dealt with meat or poultry.

PS I hate to tell that some of the houses were there before the poultry company was

I think you have misinterpreted my comments. I am on your side, but you must respect that I am showing both sides of the argument while some wish to slant everything towards their benefit.

The thread entries were discussing trucks driving down the road. No one was talking about trucks parking.

It does not matter what is on a property. This is the most common mistake amongst residents' arguments. If its zoned L4, its L4. I could rip down every home and put up chicken factories galore without needing a single approval from neighbors. This is the main aspect neighbors seem to always flub when screaming that they live in a "residential district". Why do you think there is such a cluster of G2 and L4 zoning? Because it has long been known as industrial wasteland. Has it become residential? Sure, because cheap realtors and speculators bought crap factories and warehouses, called it hip, and sold it for top dollar. They worked on the cheap, and merely procurred variances rather than dealing with a more complicated zoning change. When someone from the city is fielding complaints from residents, councilmen, etc., they do not come out in person and survey the area. Instead, they look at a zoning map-which plainly makes it look like an industrial area, and they will act accordingly.

The comparison to Meat Packing District was not inappropriate, as your comments stated:
Theses trucks also leave a trail of a defrosting chicken broth that runs out the back of truck

I was merely reminiscing from my Packing District days of unloading Dali's, Warhol's, and Lichtenstein's into an art gallery while jumping over puddles of blood from the meat plants. It was a suitable assimilation when imagining "defrosting chicken broth" mixing with high heels and dress shoes splashing through the fowl muck in Old City. Respectfully, if the chicken place is the only place that is or was industrial, where did all of those funky old warehouse and factory buildings come from in old city? In fact, up until relatively recent history, much of old city and society hill was some form of factory or industrial implementation-to the extreme that many of the homes still intact were used to produce hats, garments, textiles, etc.

And then there was that darn Betsy Ross. I wonder if she had her use registration permit to run a business out of her house. If I catch her sellin' one more flag outta her house, why I'm gonna....