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Old 05-03-2005, 08:37 PM
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100% dead... I mean center/south/U City, queen village, bella vista, old city, NoLibs, Fairmount, Chestnut Hill, etc, etc....the city is dead. Have you ventured out? Been out of Bucks/NE Philly?

Yes. And do all those neighborhoods combined conteract North, West, Southwest?


Maybe not dead, but critical condition? Yes. The NE is vital, I know, NYC thrives on it's outer boroughs, and treats them very well. Same with LA and the Valley, and Chicago and the North side.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:45 PM
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I would say it's all part of the middle class flight. When the district started bussing in kids from poorer areas, many unfortunately brought some of the same problems with them. The kids from a little better means generally perform better and many of those moved out to the suburbs with their families. These days many families either move, send their kids to Catholic school, private school or try to get them into the good magnet schools like Central or Masterman. Although they aren't what they were, Northeast and Washington are still the best performing regular high schools in the city. I was shocked at how far Frankford had fallen when I attempted to send my son there at the beginning of this year. I transferred him to Catholic school after 2 months.
Geno, I'm surpised you're sending you kid to a Catholic school. Were there no good magnet schools he could get into? Btw, what school? Yeah, it really sucks you have to pay $5,000 including fees for a half decent education. North Catholic for me was half decent, but all I can say was better than Frankford or Fels. The suburban schools smoke both the public AND parochial here. NC had it's share of juvenile deliquents, druggies, and kids that didn't care.
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:44 PM
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It's simple really, just look at what is going to these schools.

The school district pisses away millions of dollars a year to bus people in from every neighborhood in the city to the NE and the inevitable happens. Plus you get the added bonus of these little draling tearing up the neighborhood on their way to/from school.
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Old 05-05-2005, 07:13 PM
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I'm here becasue I want to see Philadelphia rise from the ashes to become a great city.
Why's that? You say you plan on settling down here or some other city but you seem not to like philly. Your in a search for a city to live in so you picked bensalem? When I went to school at neshaminy, bensalem was the poop hole district in bucks. Has that changed?

You say every city wants to be NY. It's everyone dream city? I like NY a lot. It is most certainly not my dream city. Nothing wrong with it but it's just too much for me. I'd live here over NY anyday. It's just a personal opinion. Go to Boston and you'll find a ton of people with the same opinion. Your assertion that 9 out of 10 people would live in NY if not for taxes and stress is the biggest bunch of poop I've heard out of your mouth. BTW, if Pheonix is dying to be like NY it's doing a really bad job of it.

One last thing, I think central is still ranked in the top ten schools in the country.

PS. can you point me to the threads where philadelphian's are bad mouthing NY?
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Old 05-09-2005, 05:21 PM
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I send my child to a private Catholic high school. The first reason being for safety. It's the plain, and simple. Although it's taking three people to pitch in for tuition her dad, and I feel the security is worth it.

As for the magnet schools. She was accepted to Masterman even though she didn't attend junior high there. The thought of having her get down to Spring Garden both ways definately put a damper on that one. Girls High basically the same thing. Four girls she knows from grade school went to Girls, and have since transferred to Ryan. There's a race war beginning there without anybody raising an eyebrow.

Hallahan was a choice. Every single family member which amounts to seventeen have attended except me. Again, leaving after extracurricular activities in the dark there is not all that safe.

Perhaps it's a false sense of security I have, but looking at the violence my friends children have witnessed or been victim to at Washington, Northeast, and Lincoln I'd say we didn't have a choice.
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My My My how politicaly correct we all are. It is not the school that is at fault , it is whats going there now that is the problem.
Blame the problem on forced bussing .
We all know how disruptive one misbehaving student can be in a class room , imagine 3/4 of the kids with additudes, all acting out like gangstas at the same time . How can anyone learn in that kind of situation.
The non-gangsta kids just hope they get home safe and the rest dont want to learn anything but will leave school and complain that no one will give them a job.
The real worry is that they are the next generation , I fear we are doomed as a country unless somthing is done to control the kids and stop making excuses for them.
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Hey, when I gradumated NEHS in the good ol' days of 1979, it was a damn good school. Middle class flight has had a lot to do with it.

The much mentioned schools of Central, Masterman, etc. are very good schools. I know judges that send their spawn there. If they can't get in, then it's private school, so what does that tell you?

Northeast High School had a special magnet program--SPARC, which was well-regarded and apparently highly competitive to gain entrance into. A group of parents decided that the population of that program was skewing a little too...Asian perhaps? The outcome, lower the standards a little to open up the competition some more. My daughter read that and lost any interest she may have had in that particular program.

I know that there are evil, problem "children" throughout the school system, but as with anything else, you do get out of it what you invest in it.
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:56 PM
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My My My how politicaly correct we all are. It is not the school that is at fault , it is whats going there now that is the problem.
Blame the problem on forced bussing .
We all know how disruptive one misbehaving student can be in a class room , imagine 3/4 of the kids with additudes, all acting out like gangstas at the same time . How can anyone learn in that kind of situation.
The non-gangsta kids just hope they get home safe and the rest dont want to learn anything but will leave school and complain that no one will give them a job.
The real worry is that they are the next generation , I fear we are doomed as a country unless somthing is done to control the kids and stop making excuses for them.
Who's politically correct? Most of the responses in this thread, dating back over a year, say the same thing you said.
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:14 PM
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Because the students are so bad.
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:31 PM
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I went to 12 years of Catholic school.....nuff said.
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