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Old 05-22-2008, 12:04 PM
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In my neighborhood, several lovely black families (owner occupied) have sold their houses and moved out because they were sick of, not just the thugs selling drugs in broad daylight, but also the thugs with training wheels (6 to 12 year olds)--all up to no good, running the streets after dark, throwing rocks at cars, vandalising homes, slashing tires, and destroying personal property, trespassing, littering, and disrespecting the handful of grown-ups who have the courage to correct them! The problem is out of control. The 'new' people, many of whom are renters, decided to move here because it was such a nice neighborhood. It is affordable and they wanted a safe community for their children. The problem is that they think simply changing their zip code and not parenting their children once they move in will do the trick. The police rarely show up when called or it's hours later, so the message to these kids and their derelict parents is that they can do whatever they want. I'm sorry, but no child under 12 should be out on the streets of this city after dark without an adult, no matter what the curfew laws say. You have to wonder what Solomon Montgomery, John Lewis, Eric Floyd, Howard Cain and Levar Warner were up to in their neighborhoods when they were kids. I think it's a safe bet they were up to no good and their parents never reigned them in. Am I the only person who sees a pattern here?

This makes sense.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:25 PM
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This makes sense.
What does that mean? are you agreeing with him, or are you being sarcastic? I know exactly what he is talking about.

When I was a kid, if you got out of line, if my parents weren't around to disipline me, then someone elses parents were there and they DID. My parents had absolutely zero problem with it at all. If Mrs. L whacked me for misbehaving, when I got home I got whacked again for misbehaving. My mother didn't run down to Mrs. L's house like a raving lunatic. That's the way it was in Mayfair in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The kids back then had respect for their elders as well as for their neighborhood.

Unfortunately I can't say that the same is true today ...
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What does that mean? are you agreeing with him, or are you being sarcastic? I know exactly what he is talking about.

When I was a kid, if you got out of line, if my parents weren't around to disipline me, then someone elses parents were there and they DID. My parents had absolutely zero problem with it at all. If Mrs. L whacked me for misbehaving, when I got home I got whacked again for misbehaving. My mother didn't run down to Mrs. L's house like a raving lunatic. That's the way it was in Mayfair in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The kids back then had respect for their elders as well as for their neighborhood.

Unfortunately I can't say that the same is true today ...

I was expressing agreement!
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Undesirable people!!?? some would think gay people are such. Are there no poor,black,gay people . Sounds awfully elitist to me.
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My name is Keith for those of you that don’t know me and I live here in Mayfair as well, right on the corner of Dittman & Vista st, and you don’t have to address me by a silly s/n.

I really have tried to take a neutral position and consider how this flier could be taken as being hateful & racist or even untrue but I keep reaching the same exact conclusion: it is not. I can see the extreme amount of potential that it has to upset members of the various non-white communities and even members of the white community that want nothing to do with “racism”. However, our flier does not promote hate, it states a well known and unspoken truth, one that is much larger and far more encompassing then just the murder of our local police officers and the city of Philadelphia. What is on that flier is reality, pure and simple and not just “racist propaganda” or the personal message/agenda of the KSS as much as many would like to dismiss it as.

One thing I’ve noticed is that people have tried to bring up the issue that we excluded fallen Officer Lauretha Vaird from our flier as some sort of evidence that we:

A.) Don’t really care about police officers, and….
B.) That what is presented on the flier is untrue.

Both are incorrect, we do care about the police and respect anyone that puts their lives on the line. To be honest, Black cops probably get it a hell of a lot harder because I’d imagine they catch a lot of slack from their own communities for being “sell outs”. But as I’ve said before, were looking at things from our peoples perspective, i.e.; were only concerned with the “white community” as the rest of you should be. But really, would putting Officer Lauretha Vaird’s photo on there make the truth more acceptable? Perhaps I did make quite a serious mistake by not putting her on there because she too was murdered by a member of the black community, a famous local rapper by the name of Cool-C: http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/news/85632.php

Holding people accountable for their actions and calling it like it is is not fomenting hate. If anything what we are doing is fomenting reality, something which has resulted in the necessary and healthy discussion of these extremely serious issues, which is our main objective and not recruitment. I think the only thing that most people really disagree with about all of this is the messenger (SKINHEADS) and not the message in itself. Which I completely understand, and as I’ve said before; most of us are not even skinheads, well not anymore.

KSS is something we started when we were younger and we’ve been steering it into a different direction since most of us have out grown the whole skinhead thing.


Anyways, 3300 Mayfair, you’re right on target, you just need to connect a few dots.
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We here in Mayfair for quite some time have stood tall and said over and over and over again "We DON'T want this ... We DON'T want this " and yet it is forced on us like it or not. We contacted city officials and what not and yet nothing was done.

It all started with the bussing program back in the late 70's.

Our voices / concerns have gone un-checked and un-cared about. "Screw you Mayfair" was basically the answer that we got, and we had to accept it.
And it has been the same exact story in every decent white community across America and not just here Mayfair. Why? Because our politicians are not concerned in the least about our community and especially not in our own interests. They won’t get a pat on the head or a push up that political ladder unless they are twisting themselves into a pretzel to assist and cater to the black communities and “inner city youths”. But what do you expect from people like Mayor Street, a closet supporter of Mumia Abu Jamal that has also made some very racially charged remarks.

In reality no one cares about our interests but us, which is why it is up to us and us alone to rethink what we’ve been doing here and what were going to do about it.

We have also become too comfortable and far too tolerant. We do not have a voice loud enough to be heard or a presence strong enough to be felt in city hall or anywhere else for that matter. We are pushovers and the politicians just wipe us off their shoulders like a flake of dandruff. And every single time it happens we just accept it and hope that if we could just do this or do that differently that maybe, just maybe, one of these days someone is going to listen and maybe something might even change for once.

But don't hold your breath,just take serious note of how the black community responds to things like this. Look at how they address anything they perceive to be racist or unjust to their people, whether it be real or imagined. They have organizations and community leaders that will not stop until they have been heard (by everyone), they push and push and push until they are somewhat satisfied with the results they’ve been given. If our politicians knew they would receive a similar type of reaction they would be far more likely to act when we spoke. Instead were writing letters and putting Mayfair Pride signs on your lawn while gritting your teeth in hopes that your street wont get hit next. Organize the community and then we can address the politicians.
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Here we are 20+ years later and things haven't gotten better for the people of Mayfair, they have gotten worse. We now have long time residents leaving BEAUTIFUL homes that they loved and worked their azzes off to get because their voices were unheard or uncared about. We now have charter schools because the kids who LIVE in Mayfair can't get the education that they used to be able to get because of all of the disruptions from outside kids. It's so bad, that private schools are at max capacity with residents begging to let their kids in. The folks in Mayfair are paying their fair share of taxes for a good school to send their kids to, and yet they have to shell out even MORE money for schooling because of the pill that they were forced to swallow.

"We DON'T want Section 8 ... We DON'T want Section 8"

"Screw you Mayfair" was again pretty much the answer that we got. Nothing was done to stop it, and we were again forced to take it.
Kind of like this?




Photos from the 101 Airborne division being used to force integration on the American public at gun point in 1957 public(talk about not getting what you wanted) http://www.white-history.com/hwr66.htm

This is all because we have refused to identify the root of the problems and have only acknowledged the results of them. It is the people and not the size of their bank accounts. Our politicians, town watch and neighborhood civic associations are powerless to stop the changes taking place because they refuse to acknowledge this. Our politicians will never speak out on our behalf or address the true nature of these issues for fear of being labeled racist or just a lack of interest. All of our local community organizations have failed and they will follow the same exact route and continue to use the same old ineffective buckets to save the sinking ship that we've worked so hard to maintain, we being the key word here people.

I went to public schools, I didn’t have the option to go to a charter school because we didn’t have the money for that. I’ve been stabbed with knives & ice picks, beaten with 40 bottles, baseball bats and chains. I’ve been shot at, robbed and had guns put into my mouth. I’ve been jumped on numerous occasions and my own mother has been attacked on numerous occasions. She now lives in the mountains…..

I have had to go to the ER for stitches so many times that it wasn’t funny. I’ve experienced things like this daily and on a first hand basis and this is what is in store for the NE, it’s already here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9nUiymWVfe4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdSlOJktiRQ

Disruptions from “outside kids” in our schools, it’s pretty obvious who these kids are and it’s disgusting that people will subject their own children to this because they have become crippled by political correctness.

Our fliers were not designed as a type of “no-tresspassing sign” and they won’t deter anyone from moving here. All the hatred and violence we are accused of promoting wont deter these people from coming here either: only a stong united community can do such a thing which cannot build until we regain our identity. The KSS has already acomplished our first task, to make people actually think and the media has just done our job ten fold by advertising and reproducing our fliers thoughout the city for us.

Now it’s time for our community to question the effictiveness of their local leaders and the methods they continue to employ, along with the people that follow them. It’s time to recognize their innifectiveness and its time to speak openly about it and think about what we can do to address these things. But people must realize that the media will continue to slander anyone that does anything remotely possitive and effective on our behalf, whether you’re a member the “vicious violent hate group” known as the KSS or just an average citizen.

The KSS is not going to fix this problem but we can help trigger some real thought and shed some light on the issues at hand. The community is going to have to fix and address this. It is time to do some real thinking and reorganizing, not join the KSS, but you should most certainly be supportive our actions. Also it’s extremely important to speak up about all of this. You have to speak to your neighbors about it. Your children, your friends, your family, the people at work: everyone. Because once you do this it will create a domino effct. Could you imagine if the people of the NE actually spoke up, together?
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i think the lower northeast is quickly becoming the next fishtown from 20 years ago

a bunch of white trash scared that their neighborhood is not what it once was and blaming choclate people for it
of course its the people who are scared fault OHHHHHHH
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Keith,

Once again, before you start ripping on blacks, you should get a grip on your own conduct. Stop getting arrested for assault and illegal weapons possession. You won't do your community much good from a jail cell and your message that blacks are all that is wrong with the Northeast will be diluted.

Seriously, many would include you as part of the scum that needs to be run out of town.
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