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Old 05-20-2008, 12:31 PM
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Mr. Brightside - I've asked this question many times and have yet to get anything approaching an answer. What is "Thirteen Stars" "doing" besides fomenting hate.
I've been thinking a LOT about that recently. I think a lot of people in Mayfair have.

Here's what I've come up with so far. Please understand that I'm just talking out loud. I'm not saying that I agree one way or another, I'm just talking and letting you in on what's been circling in my head lately, and I'm sure it's in other Mayfair residents heads as well.

We here in Mayfair for quite some time have stood tall and said over and over and over again "We DON'T want this ... We DON'T want this " and yet is is forced on us like it or not. We contacted city officials and what not and yet nothing was done.

It all started with the bussing program back in the late 70's.

Our voices / concerns have gone un-checked and un-cared about. "Screw you Mayfair" was basically the answer that we got, and we had to accept it.

Here we are 20+ years later and things haven't gotten better for the people of Mayfair, they have gotten worse. We now have long time residents leaving BEAUTIFUL homes that they loved and worked their azzes off to get because their voices were unheard or uncared about. We now have charter schools because the kids who LIVE in Mayfair can't get the education that they used to be able to get because of all of the dissruptions from outside kids. It's so bad, that private schools are at max capacity with residents begging to let their kids in. The folks in Mayfair are paying their fair share of taxes for a good school to send their kids to, and yet they have to shell out even MORE money for schooling because of the pill that they were forced to swallow.

"We DON'T want Section 8 ... We DON'T want Section 8"

"Screw you Mayfair" was again pretty much the answer that we got. Nothing was done to stop it, and we were again forced to take it.

Fast forward to now. Mayfair has tried to do things the right way, and we've taken it on the chin every time. Look at these threads. They aren't imaginary. People are PISSED that they can't send their kids to school without the fear of getting jumped. They're PISSED that you have thugs cruising the area and bringing nothing but trouble with them. They're PISSED !!! They KNEW this was going to happen from the very beginning, they begged for the city to stop it, and yet they were fed the "Screw you Mayfair pill", and the thugs knew it and are laughing their azzes off the whole time.

Enter 13 Stars and his poster

While this is NOT what Mayfair wanted, if it does nothing more than stop thugs for a minute and make them think about the area that they are wandering into .... Well .... that may be all of the help that Mayfair is going to get. Much like white people aren't very welcomed in North Philly, perhaps this is some sort of blunt sign saying " Hey you know what, we've had enough." "We've tried it your way, and we're not happy." " We've tried getting help through the proper channels, and we were basically fed the "Screw You pill", so now we're going to try it THIS way.

I think that is why this poster has been circulated as much as it has through the email and what not. People are PISSED that their voices were ignored.

That's what I think ....
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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Mr B, this may be off track, but tell your pals that Center City ends at South Street. If you live below South, you are in South Philly.
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I've been thinking a LOT about that recently. I think a lot of people in Mayfair have.

Here's what I've come up with so far. Please understand that I'm just talking out loud. I'm not saying that I agree one way or another, I'm just talking and letting you in on what's been circling in my head lately, and I'm sure it's in other Mayfair residents heads as well.

We here in Mayfair for quite some time have stood tall and said over and over and over again "We DON'T want this ... We DON'T want this " and yet is is forced on us like it or not. We contacted city officials and what not and yet nothing was done.

It all started with the bussing program back in the late 70's.

Our voices / concerns have gone un-checked and un-cared about. "Screw you Mayfair" was basically the answer that we got, and we had to accept it.

Here we are 20+ years later and things haven't gotten better for the people of Mayfair, they have gotten worse. We now have long time residents leaving BEAUTIFUL homes that they loved and worked their azzes off to get because their voices were unheard or uncared about. We now have charter schools because the kids who LIVE in Mayfair can't get the education that they used to be able to get because of all of the dissruptions from outside kids. It's so bad, that private schools are at max capacity with residents begging to let their kids in. The folks in Mayfair are paying their fair share of taxes for a good school to send their kids to, and yet they have to shell out even MORE money for schooling because of the pill that they were forced to swallow.

"We DON'T want Section 8 ... We DON'T want Section 8"

"Screw you Mayfair" was again pretty much the answer that we got. Nothing was done to stop it, and we were again forced to take it.

Fast forward to now. Mayfair has tried to do things the right way, and we've taken it on the chin every time. Look at these threads. They aren't imaginary. People are PISSED that they can't send their kids to school without the fear of getting jumped. They're PISSED that you have thugs cruising the area and bringing nothing but trouble with them. They're PISSED !!! They KNEW this was going to happen from the very beginning, they begged for the city to stop it, and yet they were fed the "Screw you Mayfair pill", and the thugs knew it and are laughing their azzes off the whole time.

Enter 13 Stars and his poster

While this is NOT what Mayfair wanted, if it does nothing more than stop thugs for a minute and make them think about the area that they are wandering into .... Well .... that may be all of the help that Mayfair is going to get. Much like white people aren't very welcomed in North Philly, perhaps this is some sort of blunt sign saying " Hey you know what, we've had enough." "We've tried it your way, and we're not happy." " We've tried getting help through the proper channels, and we were basically fed the "Screw You pill", so now we're going to try it THIS way.

I think that is why this poster has been circulated as much as it has through the email and what not. People are PISSED that their voices were ignored.

That's what I think ....
Get real. Thirteen Star's poster is not going to deter black thugs -- most of them think that you're racists no matter what you do. It might, however, deter a respectable black family that wants to buy a home.
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Mr B, this may be off track, but tell your pals that Center City ends at South Street. If you live below South, you are in South Philly.
Whatever. I don't really care about the name. I just want a safe sustainable community where peopl watch out for each other.
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I just want a safe sustainable community where peopl watch out for each other.
Don't we all ...
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Racist posters in parts of Phila. deemed legal
By Jeff Shields

Inquirer Staff Writer

Racist posters put up in Port Richmond and Northeast Philadelphia were "repugnant," but still legal, the city's Commission on Human Relations said yesterday.
The poster features a photo of slain Police Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, who was killed while trying to apprehend bank robbers earlier this month in Port Richmond.

The poster also shows three other white Philadelphia police officers killed in the line of duty, and the three black men charged in their deaths. It reads: "Guns don't kill people. Dangerous minorities do. How much longer can you ignore this?"

A local group calling itself the Keystone State Skinheads took credit for the posters.

"While we find their message of hate to be repugnant and their attempt to connect their motives and message to the death of Sgt. Liczbinski even more disgraceful, we live in a country that allows for certain freedoms of expression," the commission stated in a news release yesterday. "At present, it appears that this group has not broken any laws."

Mayor Nutter had asked the commission to investigate the posters. The commission said it would continue to monitor the group for illegal activities.

The commission encourages residents to report suspected hate crimes by calling 215-686-4670 or e-mailing faqpchr@phila.gov.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:37 AM
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Get real. Thirteen Star's poster is not going to deter black thugs -- most of them think that you're racists no matter what you do. It might, however, deter a respectable black family that wants to buy a home.
In my neighborhood, several lovely black families (owner occupied) have sold their houses and moved out because they were sick of, not just the thugs selling drugs in broad daylight, but also the thugs with training wheels (6 to 12 year olds)--all up to no good, running the streets after dark, throwing rocks at cars, vandalising homes, slashing tires, and destroying personal property, trespassing, littering, and disrespecting the handful of grown-ups who have the courage to correct them! The problem is out of control. The 'new' people, many of whom are renters, decided to move here because it was such a nice neighborhood. It is affordable and they wanted a safe community for their children. The problem is that they think simply changing their zip code and not parenting their children once they move in will do the trick. The police rarely show up when called or it's hours later, so the message to these kids and their derelict parents is that they can do whatever they want. I'm sorry, but no child under 12 should be out on the streets of this city after dark without an adult, no matter what the curfew laws say. You have to wonder what Solomon Montgomery, John Lewis, Eric Floyd, Howard Cain and Levar Warner were up to in their neighborhoods when they were kids. I think it's a safe bet they were up to no good and their parents never reigned them in. Am I the only person who sees a pattern here?
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Actually it's illegal to hang signs on poles so they would be fined for that not the message, it is a free country and I am GLAD the city remembers that.
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Mr. B has a point about just targeting black people who want to move to the NE as the problem.

Look at this way: if your neighborhood is going downhill, does it make any difference if it goes the way Fishtown did, which turned to crap but stayed mostly white... or Kensington which is mixed, or North Philly which is all black? You can't polish a turd.



I think Mayfair residents should work hard on making their NA stronger and convince more folks who MAKE MONEY to move IN to the neighborhood.


Gay people happen to make more money on average than straight people since most of them don't have kids around. There's a perfect demographic out there which has money to burn and will spare no expense in making their homes nice and driving up the property values of their house and their neighbors... which forces out deadbeat homeowners who can't keep up on the taxes, insurance and rents out their homes to Section 8.

Gays have been pushing undesirable people out of inner-city neighborhoods for decades now. We got a proven track record.


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