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Old 05-09-2008, 06:53 PM
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What about me B....am I in a position to criticize racial minorities behaving badly? If you were to look up my record it would say "file not found"...

Well that makes two of us so ... no!

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Well that makes two of us so ... no!

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Old 05-09-2008, 07:13 PM
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I'll be brief. The problem with the poster Keith is that it suggests that minorities are inherently dangerous while ignoring the many many factors that go into making people criminals. Those same factors that make some minorities dangerous also impact whites. This city, an in particular, the Northeast, has its own share of white drug dealing, violent, scuzzballs. Yes, none of them appear to have killed a cop recently, but that's more a matter of happenstance.

Also, as noted before, it also feigns respect for police officers. If you gave a **** about police officers you'd have included Vaird, Porter, and at least three to four other black officers that dies serving the community ... the entire community which includes you.


As for your character, it's completely relevant. You really are in no place to criticize racial minorities behaving badly given your arrest record. Focus on staying out of trouble yourself before you comment on the behavior of others.
Yes but the same exact factors you contribute to this type of behavior effects all of us equally seeing as how we are all in the same exact environment. So how is it that the black & Hispanic communities are somehow effected by this on a large scale while we are not? Racism, White Supremacy, lack of opportunities? Take a look at our politicians and the endless amount of support and community out reach programs for these communities, all of the above mentioned is bogus.

Yes we have more then our fair share of problems, I agree with all of that. There's tons of white trash and drugs are a HUGE problem in our communities but that's something for us to sort out. We don't need our problems magnified by bringing even more factors into the equation, it's not our job to solve other peoples problems. It really shouldn't be that hard to figure out that the growing presence of these people (while recognizing that there are many hard working and respectable members of the black & Hispanic community) into our communities coincides with the rapid decline of it which is slowly starting to reflect "NP".

Our whole position is to address our communities and our people and we are not going to address the issues of others until our's are completley taken care of, police officers or not. I'd really like to see other groups that speak up for a set group of people held to this code of conduct because you will quickly see that groups like the NAACP won't exactly be lining up in droves to support a "white cop".

As for my character, let's talk about that.

I vandalized the Vietnam War Memorial:

I was arrested for putting up stickers and charged with putting them on the Vietnam war memorial when I was @ 19 years old. If you bother to get a copy of the police report you'll find that I put one sticker on a handrail at the bottom of Front st. I'd hope that's obvious enough for people to realize that my intentions were not to vandalize a memorial, which is something that I would never do.

I was arrested for "assaulting" a black man in 2003:

Wrong. Again, if anyone would of bothered to get a copy of the police report instead of reading things online you would know that I never assualted anyone. I was charged with ethnic intimidation (because I did use a racial slur) and terroristic threats for threatening a drug dealer by the name of Antoni Williams. I'd highly suggest obtaining a copy of his criminal record from the Lackawana County court house because he was arrested a week or so after I was for beating his girlfriend and setting her apt on fire.

He is also a well known and convicted drug dealer in that area, also documented on his criminal record. A brick was never thrown at this guy and there was never any type of physical altercation. All of this can be discovered by reading over the police report and looking over printed version of the 911 transcript. Also, he never appeared in court, not once and the only reason that I plead guilty was because the FBI was threatening to take this to Federal court if I beat it at trail, which I would of. I also plead guilty to Simple Assault, which I was not originally charged with, because it carries a lighter sentence than Terroristic Threats does.

Now we have this incident that I'm fighting in court at the moment, which I obviously cant discuss but will once it's cleared up. I can say that it's pretty easy to take things out of context, especially when it involves people with an unpopular opinion and I'm obvious someone who makes way too much noise so I'm definitely an easy target if anything happens within fifty feet of me.

So with all of this out there, what's left to discuss regarding my character? There are also a number of other incidents involving the KSS that will be popping up shortly because I know someone will post them and I'll blow that crap out of the water just as well.

I'll be back on later, I'm going to Geno's to make sure the Liczbinski family get's some of my support, maybe some of the people on here should do the same.
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Yes but the same exact factors you contribute to this type of behavior effects all of us equally seeing as how we are all in the same exact environment. So how is it that the black & Hispanic communities are somehow effected by this on a large scale while we are not? Racism, White Supremacy, lack of opportunities? Take a look at our politicians and the endless amount of support and community out reach programs for these communities, all of the above mentioned is bogus.
The entitlement programs which you reference might be the single worse thing dreamed up for poor people ... particularly blacks. They don't encourage self determination and many blacks tend to view them as some form of reparations for past wrongs committed by this country. Instead of pulling themself up by their bootstraps, they sit back and wait for the government to compensate them for their past struggles. Those entitlement programs are a burden, not a benefit.

I know that there is opportunity for anyone willing to work hard -- mostly because my parents instilled a work ethic in me and inculcated me with values. I also had an immigrant mother who came here specifically so that she and her children could have greater opportunity.

Blacks who are mired in poverty haven't bought into that concept that there is a much greater measure of equal opportunity here than there was 30 years ago; they inflate the prevalence of racism and proceed as if there's no way out. Instead of reinforcing that skewed outlook leaders (black and white) feed and encourage it and that needs to try to change. It's one of the reasons why I am a Republican.

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Yes we have more then our fair share of problems, I agree with all of that. There's tons of white trash and drugs are a HUGE problem in our communities but that's something for us to sort out. We don't need our problems magnified by bringing even more factors into the equation, it's not our job to solve other peoples problems. It really shouldn't be that hard to figure out that the growing presence of these people (while recognizing that there are many hard working and respectable members of the black & Hispanic community) into our communities coincides with the rapid decline of it which is slowly starting to reflect "NP".
Racial isolationism makes no sense. It's not my job to do a damn thing for anyone but myself and my family. But I do things to help those (of all races) who live in my community because its the right thing to do and because the end result benefits us all. You seem to proceed as if those who share your skin color have more inherent human worth, which is just stupid. You should be attempting to drive trash (white and black) out of your neighborhood and welcoming anyone with a steady income and a decent set of values. Your neighborhood is in decline because homeowners are fleeing and you have a disproportionate number of low income people coming in to fill the void. Integration in my neighborhood has been a good thing ... because the people moving in are of a different socio-economic strata.

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Our whole position is to address our communities and our people and we are not going to address the issues of others until our's are completely taken care of, police officers or not. I'd really like to see other groups that speak up for a set group of people held to this code of conduct because you will quickly see that groups like the NAACP won't exactly be lining up in droves to support a "white cop".
**** the NAACP. I'm equally disdainful of them these days. Moreover, what issues are you addressing? From my vantage point the only thing that you're doing is trying to foment hate and divide people. Again, our neighborhood is effectively driving the riff raff out and we've been more successful and have more credibility with community leaders because its very much an integrated effort.


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As for my character, let's talk about that. ...
I know, you're a martyr of some sort ... the police are targeting you because of your activism ....

Get real. You've managed to get yourself arrested multiple times. This last time around, one of your co-defendants was illegally carrying a firearm. Look in the mirror and at those you surround yourself with before you start criticizing other racial and ethnic groups.
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Whats scarier a terrorist with a bomb or a black man without a job with a gun ? Oh by the way Im racist you say.My mother was mugged at 5th and nedro. by blacks...My father stopped to help a man with his car problem at 6th and nedro.The man hit him in the head with a pipe stole his wallet and drove away leaving my father in the street unconcious.He was black.Now for ME.I was shot at 6 times from20 yards away for my bike and wallet. same corner.blacks 4 of them.We cought them . fun stuff huh ?THEN a burning cross on marshall st. The cops protected them.Our homes are now destroyed.section 8...crack dealers...500 lb women with 8 kids NO husband to be found..
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Everybody is prejudiced to some extent. Anyone who says they aren't is lying for no good reason.

Thirteen Stars, you're the guy who's been putting those stickers and fliers up? I'll give you credit. At least you aren't afraid to speak your mind out of fear of what others think. That's one of the best qualities a person can have. And the one that says "North Philly: Coming to a neighborhood near you" was pretty clever.

That being said, I agree that we need to stop pussyfooting around the fact that minorities make up the large portion of the crime rate. But who do we blame? Not all of it can be the individual's fault. Yeah, a good chunk of it is their own fault. But then you also have the parents who didn't give a **** about them, the friends who all did that bullshit, and other influences to help them choose the path they chose. Yes, there are a lot of people who can still avoid such choices. but this is 21st century America. Most people are idiots.

It's not the fact that they're different that's the problem. It's their actions. Stereotypes come from somewhere, right?
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Maybe you should design a poster for the Mayfair civic then

Im not a skinhead but if you walked past me on the street you might think otherwise....just because I shave my head and have a goatee dosent make me a bad person....
We almost look alike. I shave my head to a tight fade and got the redneck goatee. I've long known that people judge people purely on appearance and stereotypes.

If I was a flamer and wore A|X, J-Lo shades and a bluetooth headset... I'd have my ass kicked eventually by the thugs on the El.

Instead, I look like an IBEW worker. People don't talk to me on the train, and they make room when I step on. :-P
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