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kevinl · #21 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 03:18 PM

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Looks good to me to get ready for college.

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You have excellent cut and paste skills, but do you have any practical experience in the matter? The Catholics HS are great if you are very smart and test well. If your an average student you don't get the opportunity to take many of those classes. I myself was in the top 10% of my class and couldn't take calculus because it was only offered to the very top students. maybe things have changed and that's great, the whole track system in catholic school seems flawed to me. Not everyone learns the same way...

From Philly · #22 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 03:38 PM

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You have excellent cut and paste skills, but do you have any practical experience in the matter?

......and just what is wrong with cutting and pasting information to make a point?

The Catholics HS are great if you are very smart and test well.

Isn't that the way all schools work?

If your an average student you don't get the opportunity to take many of those classes.

If you are average, then maybe you should be in the higher academic classes.

I myself was in the top 10% of my class and couldn't take calculus because it was only offered to the very top students.

Then you should have striven to be in the top ten. By the way, did not being able take calculus hinder you in life?

maybe things have changed and that's great, the whole track system in catholic school seems flawed to me. Not everyone learns the same way...

Ah the track system? You have me at an disadvantage, since it didn't exist when I was in HS, and I only recently became aware of it.

kevinl · #23 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by From Philly

Ah the track system? You have me at an disadvantage, since it didn't exist when I was in HS, and I only recently became aware of it.

A few rebuttles:
1. You're right, the cut and paste comment was uncalled for, I apologize.
2. I think your pigeon holed more in Catholic school and not given the chances you are in public school (again my opinion).
3. ?????
4. I said I was in the top 10% of my class. It hindered me my freshman year in college, when i was the only kid in my calculus class who didn't have it in high school.

ACE · #24 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 07:02 PM

Well, being the bookworm I was I was allllllllllll Track ONE.

I had calculus in like sixth grade.

Seriously, way back they used to in grade school have "EXCELLERATED". You got to learn French and have Chemistry and get cultured. Then they had "Groups". A Group meant you were plain smart. F Group was the bad kids. We didn't say the dumb kids or the slow kids we called them the bad kids.

Then maybe about 15 years ago in the Catholic grade schools they introduced some thing where everyone was mixed in together. No more seperation of smart, bad, medium, getting dumber by the minute. Parents at the meeting of this new wacky, hippy idea were aghast.

Sister said "In life we do not work with all people that are from the same intellectual background as us". One dad said "Pffffftttttttt, yeah we do". Sister said "Well the students who are quick learners will help the slower students, and they will all prosper. It's easier asking a fellow student for help than to ask a teacher".

Yeah, I raised my hand and said "Ummmm, Sister, I was D Group and I'd have felt like a stupid fool asking someone from excellerated for help. I'd have felt less than". My girlfriend raised her hand and said "Yeah, Sister if she'd have bothered me with a stupid question while I was doing my French homework I'd have told her about it and talked down to her".

Point being? I have none. Just sharing. I have a hard time writing because I was in D Group.
There's a saying that "Smart is smart". I wish I'd have paid attention that's for sure. Meanwhile alot of the kids I went to school with that were in F Group became extremely successful in many walks of life and in their careers. Some of the excellerated kids had nervous breakdowns. It happens.

From Philly · #25 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 08:29 PM

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A few rebuttles:

2. I think your pigeon holed more in Catholic school and not given the chances you are in public school (again my opinion).

Haven't never gone to public school, I can neither agree or disagree with you. When I attended, I remember in sophomore year, they asked us to pick what courses we wanted, General, Business or Academic. I think they did their best to accommodate us.

3. ?????

"If your an average student you don't get the opportunity to take many of those classes.

If you are average, then maybe you should be in the higher academic classes."

Sorry for the misunderstanding, it was my mistake. I meant to type "shouldn't". In other words, just because you want to take academic classes, it doesn't mean you are qualified.

4. I said I was in the top 10% of my class. It hindered me my freshman year in college, when i was the only kid in my calculus class who didn't have it in high school.

Again, my mistake, I misread your post Obviously being in the top 10%, you should have had calculus. I was in the middle, if that, and I had it. Did you go to Catholic School? Did you have other academic courses?

From Philly · #26 (**permalink**) 10-18-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE

Seriously, way back they used to in grade school have "EXCELLERATED". You got to learn French and have Chemistry and get cultured. Then they had "Groups". A Group meant you were plain smart. F Group was the bad kids. We didn't say the dumb kids or the slow kids we called them the bad kids.

T.

Way back?????? If you want way back, when I was in grade school, there were 60 to a class room, and the only seperate groups were the reading groups, which had names such as "The Holy Redeemers", Holy Angels" etc., you get the idea. The basic rule was that either you passed or you got left back.

Marbugkid · #27 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 09:57 AM

OH hell, even Catholic schools have changed since I was in there...and that wasn't all that long ago...15 years.

There have been many advances in the way Catholic Schools educate their students.

Computer class when I was in CS was basically a typing class on a "new fangled computerthingy" taught by a nun who should have been confined to Camilla Hall 10 years prior to me entering that class, who went ape sheetz if you touched your nose without a tissue!

Now, in my old school, every class has computer acess within that class, plus the comp lab and the whole parish is wireless to boot and has been for several years.

To say that a Public School student has any advantage over a Catholic School student is a farce, at least today in Philly. The only exceptions could be magnet schools.

Now, one COULD say that today, regardless of you education in grade school or high school, you still can get into college, which you could NOT say 20 years or even 15 years ago. That was when colleges actually cared about your grades and not your ethnic background and monetary status (rich and poor). Today, a bum living on the streets can get into college if they want...thats not bad, but it is a step down from what was once a sure fire way to land an excellent paying, executive type job.

Kids graduating college with full degrees are now working in supermarkets to make ends meet.... working 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet....some with HUGE student loans to pay off.

What has happened to the overall education system?

From Philly · #28 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 10:04 AM

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OH hell, even Catholic schools have changed since I was in there...and that wasn't all that long ago...15 years.

I would say with no reservations, that Catholic schools have changed way more in the last 45 years, then the last 15 years.

kevinl · #29 (**permalink**) 10-19-2007, 11:43 AM

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Again, my mistake, I misread your post Obviously being in the top 10%, you should have had calculus. I was in the middle, if that, and I had it. Did you go to Catholic School? Did you have other academic courses?

Yes, I went to Judge in the early 80's. I had triginometry my senior and i didn't learn a thing. The teacher was a joke and we had the answers to every test from the year before. I did have a good physics teacher that year. Overall about half the teachers there were a joke. Don't get me wrong i really liked it there, but as i got older i realized we didn't get much for our tuition buck...

mc52877 · #30 (**permalink**) 10-20-2007, 06:11 PM

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Not all Catholic Schools take Non-catholics, so that would be your starting point...Is your girlfriend Catholic? I htink you are in St. Timothy parish, if I remember where you live correctly...try them!
With Parishes closing many schools that remain open are full and have waiting lists.

In my day I went to the school formerly known as Saint Bartholomew's at 5600 Jackson (it's abandoned now). There use to be sisters that taught. Since 1990 till the day they went belly up they did not have any sisters teaching that was the real loss. And I went there from 83-91 and when I started there was a waiting list to attand in the years after the sisters left they had very little in attendence. sad. MC