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Old 10-27-2006, 07:11 PM
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My husband dropped our son off at school this morning, and cell phoned me to say there were about 8 pro-life picketers outside, carrying signs that read, "Abortion Stops A Beating Heart".

Now, anyone who knows me knows I fully agree with the sentiment on those signs. But my question is: WHY? And WHY NE High?

I called the school to ask if they knew and I said while I support their right to picket and even agree with them, I don't see why it is this high school? Anyone know? Anything going on there that is pro-abortion?
I know many high schools have parenting rooms where they provide guidance to pregnant teens condoms and pregnancy tests. I dontknow if Mortheast High school has one and most likely these nutsys dont know either.
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:22 PM
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I work in the medical field (specifically OB/Gyn) on a daily basis, I have seen my share of both good and bad situations regarding birth. A heartbeat can be detected at 30 days or earlier after conception. In my field of work, a miscarriage (not induced) is documented as a missed abortion. I have encountered many women from all walks of life and I have never felt the need to be judgmental regarding the decisions they make relative to their bodies.

Just a little info on a very hot topic!
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:43 PM
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It has to do with what we see in front of us when we see evidence of preborn babies. I really don't think you need to be a member of ANY religion to admit that an unborn baby looks like, well, an unborn baby! And since the heart begins beating at 42 days after conception, I really doubt that is a fact created by a religious group.

You can ask almost any younger child, what a picture of a (non-aborted) fetus looks like, and they will invariably say, "Baby!" My 8 year old (when she was 5), once saw a picture of an aborted baby on a flier on the ground, and asked me, "What happened to that baby?"
Rose, you're beliefs are based on what something LOOKS like?

What about pre-ultrasound. When there was no sonogram there wasn't a soul knew what an unborn baby looked like.

Have you looked at a blastocyst?

Nanneky gave solid information at about when a heartbeat could be detected. I'm sure that's been done forever with the heartbeat. That gives information then about a heart. I am not sure at what point the fetus's brain develops. That's another issue.

Your beliefs are your own, and I respect you for it, but I want abortion kept safe and legal for our sisters up the road.

So, what were the sign carriers at Northeast for? Makes you wonder.

Please understand I went to the fertility clinic at HUP for four years. I practically lived there. Operations for the endometreosis. Laser laproscopies.
The whole nine yards. Many people could not believe I had the belief that a woman should have a choice. A legal choice to have an abortion.

Nanneky, said it so well. She has seen the good and the bad. Judging people though won't help.
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:52 AM
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Unborn babies look like shrimp cocktail, not babies. Either way, they can't survive outside the mothers body at that stage.

I would freak out if Repent America were to speak at my daughter's school. Thankfully, I believe that Wallingford-Swarthmore would never allow such a thing.
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I would freak out if Repent America were to speak at my daughter's school. Thankfully, I believe that Wallingford-Swarthmore would never allow such a thing.
They could talk to my daughter straight on, and I'd have no problem.

She was the only girl refused to wear tape over her mouth to symbolize the unborn (abortion) and their silence at her school.

I would have just did it. Not her. Better yet she made her own sign into a big button "educating" her sheeple friends as she relayed it to me.

Oh, please. I wish she would just wait until she gets out of Catholic School.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:11 AM
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I don't base my feelings on what unborn babies LOOK like only. Also on what they ARE.

True, babies very early on cannot survive outside the mother's body. Then again, some disabled people cannot survive without certain medical care and/or equipment...and some elderly people cannot survive without certain external apparatus or medications. Do we kill them too? Then again, maybe I shouldn't ask that because I might not like the answer (it seems that many who support the easy availability of abortion also support euthanasia.)

Abortion may be legal for now, but it is not "safe". Not for the mother many times, and it is almost always fatal for the baby.

I was almost aborted for medical reasons, and if abortion had been legal in the year I was conceived, I would have been. Thank G-d I was not.

I also lost several babies about a month before their due dates....I saw them, and held them in the hospital. I was already pro-life by that time, but their deaths firmly cemented my knowledge of what unborn children truly are. They are not simply "masses of cells", "uterine contents" or whatever other nazi-like euphemisms the pro-abortion crowd like to label them for dehumanization purposes to make it easier to advocate killing them.

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Old 10-29-2006, 07:27 AM
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I'll keep this brief and to the point.

If you believe in something, that's great. Believe.
And live your life in a way which reflects those beliefs. But don't publicly display or preech these views on others who take it offensively.

Not suprisingly, a lot of these protesters are oddballs, ( talk to a few) and well in the minority.
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>>My 8 year old (when she was 5), once saw a picture of an aborted baby on a flier on the ground, and asked me, "What happened to that baby?"

Is it worth pointing out that using a photo that looked like a group of rapidly multiplying cells instead of a baby wouldn't be much good as propaganda?

I'd agree with the last poster. There's really nothing more to say than that.
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:03 PM
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>>>True, babies very early on cannot survive outside the mother's body. Then again, some disabled people cannot survive without certain medical care and/or equipment...and some elderly people cannot survive without certain external apparatus or medications. Do we kill them too? Then again, maybe I shouldn't ask that because I might not like the answer (it seems that many who support the easy availability of abortion also support euthanasia.)<<<

And lots of people who support "pro-life" are also "pro-death penalty," right?

The two are completely different. If those mythical disabled and/or elderly people were not sentient, and couldn't survive without being hooked up to your personal body, or by the donation of a vital organ of yours, whether you wanted to or not, you might think twice about whose rights are at stake. Or do you go around to hospitals offering up one of your kidneys to those in need?

Furthermore, there's not a lot of people supporting "euthanasia" if by that you mean forcibly ripping old or disabled people off life support as they beg for their lives. Some people do think that the decision to live or die when one is unable to survive without massive medical intervention should be up to the individual, or if the individual is irreversibly incapacitated, up to their immediate families, not to Rick Santorum or other grandstanding representatives of the state.

I realize that logic doesn't enter into SR's arguments, but I just can't help it.
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:10 PM
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[quote=brooklyncatAnd lots of people who support "pro-life" are also "pro-death penalty," right?[/quote]



I'm not. In fact I am just as outspoken against the DP as I am against abortion. I don't like the idea of killing *anybody*, for *any* reason. And I have a personal reason for being against the DP, just as I have personal reasons for being against abortion. I don't believe in any form of execution, whether its convicted criminals or unborn babies.

However, having said that I will say that the stance of those pro-lifers who do support the DP makes a bit more sense to me than the pro-abortionists who oppose capital punishment. In the first case, they are against killing the innocent, and in favor of punishing the guilty (or presumed guilty, IF the verdict was correct).

In the second case, with those who are pro-abortion/anti-DP, they are in favor of killing an innocent child but not a convicted murderer/rapist/whatever.
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