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Old 01-31-2006, 11:57 AM
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Apparently, after the explanation from the non profit groups in Frankford, the release of 18 prisoners into a re-entry program is not a problem for Northwood residents.
A proposal for a Half Way House in Northwood, despite deed restrictions, should be considered. The residents of Northwood seem to be up beat and optimistic about the future of the area and would open their generous hearts to welcome these ex cons with open arms, bake sales and a live concerts every Friday evening in the summer in their little park.
Frankford will agree to "share" this prison program with Northwood, because, as it begins with 18, the number will grow and the Frankford community is quite sure that the overflow will be enough to go around.
As a few of the administrators of non profit groups live in Northwood, it should be quite easy to build a facility to accomodate other social programs.
A big "Thank You" to the generosity and open hearts of the good residents of Norhtwood for sharing the burden with Frankford!
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:27 PM
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Boo freaking hoo. In a leadership vacuum, you've assigned these roles to the local non-profits and then whine when your not accepted into their 'clicques'. You've assailed Northwood residents and cast dispersions on a local neighborhood institution, Frankford Friends. But since you've been there forever and have seen it all, no one can question you, we wouldn't know. Give it a break.

That school has been there since 1833 ( Abe Lincoln was probably in law school and you were probably in diapers) I'm sure they've seen the winds of change blow many times at that location, but they continue to thrive. Northwood is not Chestnut Hill and Frankford is not the badlands, so forget this 'class divide' nonsense. Northwood fought hardest for Clearkin, and Northwood, wheather you believe it or not, is an anchor that residents of Frankford would do well to emulate.

Let's get back to the real issues. Jobs. An increased police prescence. Real Leadership. Accountability.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:39 PM
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Northwood Civic had never been accused of being a push over for any scheme. They are a tough group. So if they listened to the arguments and came to the conclusion that it might be ok maybe it is. The fact they disagree with you might be a wake up call Dragonfly.
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:45 PM
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[quote=Four Provinces]Boo freaking hoo. In a leadership vacuum, you've assigned these roles to the local non-profits and then whine when your not accepted into their 'clicques'. You've assailed Northwood residents and cast dispersions on a local neighborhood institution, Frankford Friends. No one "cast dispersions" on Frankford Friends - If you can read, you'll see that I, as well as others, have nothing but high regards for Frankford Friends.
Get it right!
I've known many, many that have sent their children there and I have been involved over the years in their bake sales, Spring Fair and car washes, so don't accuse me of "casting dispersions" on Frankford Friends.
And, get real about Frankford, the neighborhood, because it will bite you in the A#& when you least expect it, Frankford's problems will be in your backyard too.
And, it wasn't only Northwood that fought for Clearkin. It was a lot of people.
Lucky for you and your "cliques" that lawyers, politicians, administrators, etc...live in Northwood. Now, what has Northwood done for Frankford?
You've isolated yourselves and look down your noses thinking you are impervious to what the residents of Frankford are exposed to every day. Don't be so smug, it's very unbecoming.
When was the last time you strolled Frankford Avenue for a cup of coffee, taken your kids to a playground in Frankford or to romp in Womrath Park? When was the last time you attended a civic meeting or other organizational meeting in Frankford? How did you enjoy the Frankford Arts Festival? When did you fight to get the prostitutes off the street corners or the drug dealers off the street corners?
Don't twist our words or look down your noses, it's not far behind! Boo Hoo
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Old 01-31-2006, 01:49 PM
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Northwood Civic had never been accused of being a push over for any scheme. They are a tough group. So if they listened to the arguments and came to the conclusion that it might be ok maybe it is. The fact they disagree with you might be a wake up call Dragonfly.
Then, why not put it in Northwood's back yard? I'm sure their conclusions would change real quick. This should be a wake up call for Northwood, because they do not get involved enough in what is happening in Frankford and that's the point of this, they have more affluent residents and a strong voice and could be an assett to getting Frankford cleaned up, but would rather remain as Switzerland when it comes to Frankford.
The residents of Frankford are awake, wide awake, and aware of the problems, when is everyone else going to wake up?
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:02 PM
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By the way, in reference to blame on non profits, it seems that Frankford is not the only one picking up on the waste with the leadership in this "vacuum" So don't "cast dispersions on others".
Below is direct from your website http://mynorthwood.net/
"The first year of the grant allows only for the salaries of . . . Frankford Community Development Corporation’s Tracy O’Drain and Tamara Lanier-Davis"
Published in the Northeast Times on January 12, 2006

Mixed news for E. Frankford

By Diane Villano
Times Staff Writer


Richard Redding, acting director of the Philadelphia Planning Commission’s community planning division, offered the East Frankford Civic Association good news and bad news at its Jan. 5 meeting.

The good news is that Frankford is one of four Philadelphia neighborhoods designated a Pennsylvania Main Street Community. The others are Allegheny West, Mount Airy and West Philadelphia around 40th and Lancaster.

The Main Street program is designed to develop a community’s commercial district with a Main Street manager, beautification, and economic and promotional programs for Frankford’s business corridor.

Along with that is the "Elm Street" program that focuses on revitalizing residential areas approaching the business corridor.

The bad news is that a combined total of only $500,000 is awarded to both programs over a period of five years.

"The grants sound bigger than they are. It surprised me how little money is attached to these programs," Redding said.

Also, the first year of the grant allows only for the salaries of the Main Street and Elm Street managers — the Frankford Community Development Corporation’s Tracy O’Drain and Tamara Lanier-Davis, respectively.

The overall benefit is to keep the struggling Community Development Corporation going and guide revitalization, Redding said.

In other business, attendees voted to send a letter of approval to the city Zoning Board of Adjustment regarding property at 4233-39 Frankford Ave., provided the used-car lot owners agree to secure front fence and wall; agree to no parking on the sidewalk, demolition of a wall on Salem Street, control rats and avoid parking cars on public areas of Frankford Avenue and Salem Street

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Boo freaking hoo. In a leadership vacuum, you've assigned these roles to the local non-profits and then whine when your not accepted into their 'clicques'. You've assailed Northwood residents and cast dispersions on a local neighborhood institution, Frankford Friends.
No one "cast dispersions" on Frankford Friends - If you can read, you'll see that I, as well as others, have nothing but high regards for Frankford Friends.
Get it right!
I've known many, many that have sent their children there and I have been involved over the years in their bake sales, Spring Fair and car washes, so don't accuse me of "casting dispersions" on Frankford Friends.
And, get real about Frankford, the neighborhood, because it will bite you in the A#& when you least expect it, Frankford's problems will be in your backyard too.
And, it wasn't only Northwood that fought for Clearkin. It was a lot of people.
Lucky for you and your "cliques" that lawyers, politicians, administrators, etc...live in Northwood. Now, what has Northwood done for Frankford?
You've isolated yourselves and look down your noses thinking you are impervious to what the residents of Frankford are exposed to every day. Don't be so smug, it's very unbecoming.
When was the last time you strolled Frankford Avenue for a cup of coffee, taken your kids to a playground in Frankford or to romp in Womrath Park? When was the last time you attended a civic meeting or other organizational meeting in Frankford? How did you enjoy the Frankford Arts Festival? When did you fight to get the prostitutes off the street corners or the drug dealers off the street corners?
Don't twist our words or look down your noses, it's not far behind! Boo Hoo

I there really a lack of concern in Northwood for the rest of Frankford? I know I see the rest of Frankford as my neighborhood too. I'm on the avenue at the library, at the pizza place on Sellars.
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I there really a lack of concern in Northwood for the rest of Frankford? I know I see the rest of Frankford as my neighborhood too. I'm on the avenue at the library, at the pizza place on Sellars.
Amy, again, you are probably not the majority of Northwood. You sound as if you might have a more open minded and more rounded view of things. This has not been the general consensus of many (AGAIN, NOT ALL AND EVERYONE), but many who are from Northwood.
I would gather from conversations I've had with some residents of Northwood that they would not only be afraid to park their cars on Frankford Avenue to go shopping, they probably stay as far away from Frankford as possible.
If they had made more of an effort to be involved in Frankford, with the strong groups that they have, it may not be in the state it's in now.
It's not the long time residents of Frankford that have given up the fight, it's that the long time residents of Northwood have chosen to remain ignorant of the escalating problems of Frankford and not get involved.
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Amy, again, you are probably not the majority of Northwood. You sound as if you might have a more open minded and more rounded view of things. This has not been the general consensus of many (AGAIN, NOT ALL AND EVERYONE), but many who are from Northwood.
I would gather from conversations I've had with some residents of Northwood that they would not only be afraid to park their cars on Frankford Avenue to go shopping, they probably stay as far away from Frankford as possible.
If they had made more of an effort to be involved in Frankford, with the strong groups that they have, it may not be in the state it's in now.
It's not the long time residents of Frankford that have given up the fight, it's that the long time residents of Northwood have chosen to remain ignorant of the escalating problems of Frankford and not get involved.

You know, I haven't gotten any flyers about Northwood Civic meetings. I wonder how people know when and where these kinds of community meetings take place? I'd like to attend at least one. I'd be curious to ask Nothwood residents about their feelings toward the the rest of Frankford. In my opinion, it would be in everyone's bests interests to stay involved with eachother.
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"It's a matter of wanting to be in a percieved affluence"

This was in regard to your perception of why someone would send their kid to FFS.

Your other comment where you purport to know the Quaker Mission Statement on non-violence, and use it in relation to drugs in the area was also off-base.

Yes, I'd qualify these as dispersions, despite your adamant objections. That being said, I'd like to commend you for your involvement in their fairs, fund-raisers, etc.

According to you, Northwood residents either sit up comfortably isolated from, and have nothing to do, with Frankford, or are on all the boards of the non-profits devilishly funneling away money. Which one is it? My biggest problem, Dragonfly, with your litany of posts is the generalizations of the groups, individuals and communities, it clouds some of the good points you may bring to the table.
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